Recording the Canadian Tour

Smooke · Post by **Smooke** » 4/20/2006, 7:03 pm

In anticipation that OLP could be singing a new song or two during the leg of this tour is pretty good I think.

Who's all going to be recording a show or two out there??!!

I definately have my DAT ready for one of the two show's that I will be attending

Neil · Post by **Neil** » 4/20/2006, 7:11 pm

I have to hold my beer in the air to you.........and to everybody who has the ability to record the OLP shows.

Without ya's......OLP just couldn't rock harder. Seriously.

Lets hope its a kick ass tour........look forward to hearing it.

Post by **faninor** » 4/20/2006, 7:25 pm

Someone may be doing some sneaky stuff at:
2006-04-26 Victoria
2006-04-27 Vancouver
2006-04-28 Vancouver

Someone else may also do sneaky stuff at:
2006-04-26 Victoria
2006-04-27 Vancouver
2006-04-28 Vancouver

And a third person could do sneaky stuff at:
2006-04-26 Victoria
2006-04-27 Vancouver
2006-04-28 Vancouver
2006-04-30 Kelowna

Someone asked me what type of minidisc and microphone they should get on AIM a while back, and I assume it was for OLP but I don't know what shows.

And someone at dimeadozen mentioned possibly recording two shows in Ontario but they weren't sure.

Kathy · Post by **Kathy** » 4/20/2006, 7:27 pm

looks like the West coast is well covered!

Sonya · Post by **Sonya** » 4/20/2006, 8:49 pm

^ finally.

i really can't wait for this.

Johnny · Post by **Johnny** » 4/20/2006, 9:05 pm

I'd do the Edmonton show, but alas, I lack the recording equipment.

nelison · Post by **nelison** » 4/20/2006, 9:21 pm

and let's face it, every OLP concert sounds the same anyways, so I'm pretty sure if you tape one, you've taped them all.

don't ask why · Post by **don't ask why** » 4/20/2006, 9:33 pm

J-Neli wrote:and let's face it, every OLP concert sounds the same anyways, so I'm pretty sure if you tape one, you've taped them all.

zinnnnnnnggggggggg!

that's a zing that can be heard halfway around the world!

Post by **faninor** » 4/20/2006, 9:51 pm

J-Neli wrote:and let's face it, every OLP concert sounds the same anyways, so I'm pretty sure if you tape one, you've taped them all.

They're no jam band, but with the recordings I've heard of the 2005 shows, there has been quite a bit of variation from show to show, even when the setlist doesn't vary a whole lot they've played different versions of Clumsy, 4am, and other songs, different segues between songs, multiple different bits of cover songs inserted into Naveed and Clumsy, bits of other OLP songs added into Naveed, Will the Future Blame Us, Superman's Dead, Clumsy, and Boy, varying alternate lyrics added into Will the Future Blame Us and Wipe that Smile Off Your Face, varying guitar solos added into Will the Future Blame Us, Naveed, and surely others I'm not thinking of.

I guess what I'm saying is, what you said hasn't been true since they started touring for Healthy in Paranoid Times. Sure, two nights could end up sounding the same, but there has been a lot more variety in the shows on this tour than is normal for OLP, and I would hope to see that trend continue through the Canadian tour.

Post by **faninor** » 4/20/2006, 9:54 pm

Plus the setlist has been varying a lot more this tour anyway.

nelison · Post by **nelison** » 4/20/2006, 10:06 pm

ya you might be right about the touring for this album, I haven't paid much attention to it and I've only been to the Massey show, so I'm basing this on pre-HIPT experiences... but I think we all probably can agree that for a while there it was getting pretty bad, to the point that you could predict right down to the second what was going to happen in terms of set order, the same guitar solos happening at the same times, the same "wow you guys are loud" during Superman's Dead and everything else that took away from OLP's live show.

Post by **faninor** » 4/20/2006, 10:15 pm

I dunno, that Whatever intro about Chris Benoit changed at every single show...

Yeah, I know what you mean. For instance, with every winter Canadian arena tour since 1998, they played the same songs at nearly every show. But from what I've hear, I'm quite happy with what they've been doing with the live shows for this album.

Hope · Post by **Hope** » 4/20/2006, 10:26 pm

jeez. in how many ways can you expect them to perform the same songs? as if any other bands are *completely different* every time you see them in concert. in any case, i'm actually quite happy with the variations that OLP puts into their concerts, despite the fact that i haven't downloaded and listened to every single OLP bootleg out there.

don't ask why · Post by **don't ask why** » 4/20/2006, 10:26 pm

bands that are actually good at changing up setlists are incubus and dave matthews.

Hope · Post by **Hope** » 4/20/2006, 10:34 pm

fine. olp isn't the greatest at changing setlists. but doing variations of songs, i think they are good at.

Post by **faninor** » 4/20/2006, 10:46 pm

Hope wrote:jeez. in how many ways can you expect them to perform the same songs? as if any other bands are *completely different* every time you see them in concert. in any case, i'm actually quite happy with the variations that OLP puts into their concerts, despite the fact that i haven't downloaded and listened to every single OLP bootleg out there.

Well I think the complaints arise from times such as this:

http://dchub.clumsymonkey.net/main.php? ... certid=837

http://dchub.clumsymonkey.net/main.php? ... certid=838

2 nights in a row headlining the same club. The only change in the second night was that they took 1 song out of the setlist. That's just lazy. There were certainly other songs that they had rehearsed and were able to play at that point in the tour, so they should have changed up the setlist for the 2nd night.

Compare this to Radiohead. On the last big tour, whenever they played two nights in the same venue (which was often), they only kept aboug 1/2 of the songs they played the first night, and completely switched up the order of the setlist.

Post by **faninor** » 4/20/2006, 10:47 pm

Whoops, REMed by a lot.

I agree, they're good at variation of the same songs. And they're continuing to get better at it. I'm excited for the shows next week.

nelison · Post by **nelison** » 4/20/2006, 11:06 pm

This is such a fitting 6000th post... in response to Hope...

How many variations of songs do I expect from a band? I don't expect any, but I would like to see them be a little more free-spirited towards their songs. I think a top-notch band should be doing things like that if they want to consider themselves an elite band.

The problem is when guitar solos are happening at the same time every single concert, and not only that but they aren't improvised at all. Steve's solos that happened at the exact same moments during the show pretty much sounded the same and lasted the same length during the 4 shows I saw on the Gravity tour.

Not only that but as Josh pointed out, they really don't do anything spectacular with their sets. It's not only when they're playing shows on back-to-back nights that they have basically the same set, but I saw two shows 6 months apart and they played the same set. It was a complete waste of money. Before the second concert I turned to my girlfriend and told her exactly what the setlist would be for the show, and one by one that list was revealed to be exactly what I said it would be. To me that shows that OLP has taken their success and their fans for granted. They don't care. You paid your money and now you will recieve a generic show on par with the spontaneity you would find at a Britney Spears show.

You know, over the last 5 years I've been able to see some really amazing live bands. Bands that take requests, bands that offer more banter to the audience than generic soundbites that have been mentionned at every show. Has OLP ever done this at a show I've been to? Nope. In fact at one show it was a girl's birthday and she made a sign in the front row that asked for Thief to be played. Raine said, "no we won't play thief, but instead we'll play this song for you" and they went into the song that was already planned on their setlist. To me that's just pathetic.

Go to a show by The Trews, or Sloan, or BSS or Sam Roberts, or Matthew Good and you're going to realize just how fucking bad OLP is. Those bands I mentioned are or have been as well-known as OLP (at least in Canada) and every night they bring it. The Trews are known for playing 3+ hours, taking requests, playing covers (and different covers on different nights). One show, I saw Sloan play 7 requests in a row. I have the set list for the show and it has 10 songs on it along with "whatever they want" written at the bottom. The day OLP does something like that I will regain some sort of faith in their live show, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

Axtech · Post by **Axtech** » 4/20/2006, 11:08 pm

Hope · Post by **Hope** » 4/20/2006, 11:23 pm

J-Neli wrote: Go to a show by The Trews, or Sloan, or BSS or Sam Roberts, or Matthew Good and you're going to realize just how fucking bad OLP is.

haha. i have, and i do. i should clarify that what i meant in my first post was that i think OLP is good at SONG VARIATIONS rather than SETLIST variations. i've been to ONE olp show and they played 6 songs, in which 2 of them had some kind of variety to it. im not completely stupid - i know olp sucks at varying up their setlists.

that said, i know what you mean about the BSS and MG shows. BSS took requests for a couple of their songs, and had unexpected surprises. compared to BSS, olp IS, in fact, as you say, a generic rock show.

ps. i realize this post sounds juvenile compared to your post... i just wanted to clarify it because you and i aren't really talking about the same thing.

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Recording the Canadian Tour

Recording the Canadian Tour