Let's use the great amerikan instrument, the tool of all !FREEDOM!, independance and JUSTICE......!!!!!
let us now use the almight POLL to determine what people on this message board think of the "War on Iraq" a few months after the conflict has officially ended.
Iraq War: what do you think now?
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Sufjan Stevens
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Well, seeing that I am the second vote on here, apparently I agree with you. There's no way around it, the American people, for the most part, embarassed themselves. If they could find a missle or a rail gun, then maybe this could be justified, but we found nothing at all.
And to think, I almost let myself get sucked in by the propaghanda.
And to think, I almost let myself get sucked in by the propaghanda.
I faced death. I went in with my arms swinging. But I heard my own breath and had to face that I'm still living. I'm still flesh. I hold on to awful feelings. I'm not dead... My chest still draws breath. I hold it. I'm buoyant. There's no end.
I could care less if they find WMDs. I'm just glad to see that madman Saddam out of power, so things like this never happen again:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/c ... 785095.stm
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i say we did many positive things... sure we lost lives, but what could we do. What i don't understand is how people can be against Liberating Iraq, and trying to get Iraq some god damn money and freedom.
-Liam
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Sufjan Stevens
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The fact of the matter is that it's not America's business to fix everyone's problems. We can't go to each country that may or may not want liberation and take out their leaders. What America is doing is not much different from what the Nazis did back in the 1930s, except for the fact that America isn't saying they want to take over the world like the Nazis did.
I just wish we would go back to an isolated state, and actually stay out of everyone else's affairs. We're not the answer to all problems, and we're not going to stop until we have another fuck up like Vietnam.
So Liam, what we could do is let everyone live their lives. If the Iraqis really wanted freedom that badly, wouldn't there have been massive uprisings by the people? All we did was go into their land, blow it up, kill lots of people, completely change the lifestyle they were accustomed to, and allowed them to loot the country. Where's the good in that?
I just wish we would go back to an isolated state, and actually stay out of everyone else's affairs. We're not the answer to all problems, and we're not going to stop until we have another fuck up like Vietnam.
So Liam, what we could do is let everyone live their lives. If the Iraqis really wanted freedom that badly, wouldn't there have been massive uprisings by the people? All we did was go into their land, blow it up, kill lots of people, completely change the lifestyle they were accustomed to, and allowed them to loot the country. Where's the good in that?
I faced death. I went in with my arms swinging. But I heard my own breath and had to face that I'm still living. I'm still flesh. I hold on to awful feelings. I'm not dead... My chest still draws breath. I hold it. I'm buoyant. There's no end.
anyone that chooses the last is actually the true danger to our society. To many people are ignorant, and follow blindly, those that follow blindly are a blight upon all of society and in a democratic society are of no use to us. At least corey has beliefs, and when you have beliefs you can make judgements on your own. When your ignorant you only give power to the corrupt.
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"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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happening fish
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For Your Lungs Only wrote:If the Iraqis really wanted freedom that badly, wouldn't there have been massive uprisings by the people?
Yup, there sure would be... 12 years ago actually and they were slaughtered.
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For Your Lungs Only wrote:I just wish we would go back to an isolated state, and actually stay out of everyone else's affairs. We're not the answer to all problems, and we're not going to stop until we have another fuck up like Vietnam.
does this include the money we give around the world for AIDS research, economic stimulants, and the money for defense packages?
Whenever death may surprise us,
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
heh, that would be nice. it just doesn't work in a globalized economy. but of corse you have your theories about that too.
Whenever death may surprise us,
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
money talks...bullshit walks. your always going to find people that believe this.
nobel prize
didn't they give sharon one of those? that's like Gabriel marquez Garcia winning the pulitzer prize for a book about incest and witchcraft.
nobel prize
didn't they give sharon one of those? that's like Gabriel marquez Garcia winning the pulitzer prize for a book about incest and witchcraft.Whenever death may surprise us,
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown