I prefer more layers and subtleties than power chords can provide for the music in my head.jeff is bitchin' wrote:hey. rome wasn't built in a day. it was built on power chords.
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InnocentDe
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She stands/ in the rain/
always outside looking in/
trying to hide her pain/
trying to find your sin/
with a shiver and a tear/
it's everything you've feared-
from Amy- by De Choquette
always outside looking in/
trying to hide her pain/
trying to find your sin/
with a shiver and a tear/
it's everything you've feared-
from Amy- by De Choquette
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johnny reznik is the best person i know for completely retuning a guitar and for all intents and purposes, playing open chords all the timeI hope this is goodbye wrote:Now let's stop and think about this. What seems more difficult. Playing power chords or being a pussy and playing in drop D or open G tuning so you hold down two strings to sound like you're playing a barre chord? If you're going to call yourself a technical guitarist, then play the guitar the way it's meant to be. Tuning it some odd way just to make a different sound doesn't make you a good guitarist, it just makes you a pussy.Axtech wrote:I think it was a shot at how punk is usually just random power chords that happen to sound good together.
I'll leave you with this. You people here idolize Steve and Mike Turner, both who use the drop D tuning. Well, Chris Carabba from Dashboard Confessional does the same thing, except he plays faster than Mike Or Steve. So does that make Chris better? There's nothing difficult about taking the half-assed way out to play the guitar. I'd rather be honest and play what I can easily (power chords) than tune my guitar and fake it.
they must have to switch guitars for every song onstage
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Sufjan Stevens
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So yes, that makes Johhny Reznik a pussy. *Ducks from the shoes women throw at me*
I faced death. I went in with my arms swinging. But I heard my own breath and had to face that I'm still living. I'm still flesh. I hold on to awful feelings. I'm not dead... My chest still draws breath. I hold it. I'm buoyant. There's no end.
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Sufjan Stevens
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Yeah. I suppose having people spend hours on making your hair look like you just got out of bed and having no discernable guitar talent makes you a pussy magnet, eh?
I faced death. I went in with my arms swinging. But I heard my own breath and had to face that I'm still living. I'm still flesh. I hold on to awful feelings. I'm not dead... My chest still draws breath. I hold it. I'm buoyant. There's no end.
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Sufjan Stevens
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Not when it comes to playing the guitar he doesn't. I am sure if you spend a week with someone, they can play any of those Goo Goo Dolls songs. He holds down one string when he plays. Fuck, I could do that, and I don't see myself getting swarms of the bitches.
I faced death. I went in with my arms swinging. But I heard my own breath and had to face that I'm still living. I'm still flesh. I hold on to awful feelings. I'm not dead... My chest still draws breath. I hold it. I'm buoyant. There's no end.
a lot of bands have strange tunings. like the tea party and those guys are fucking talented like crazy. alternate tunings don't mean you can't play guitar.
i like rivers cuomo on guitar. and mike turner. jade puget.
i like rivers cuomo on guitar. and mike turner. jade puget.
we are the brand new beatniks. we are the down and outers.
we are the bleeding hearts, beating syncopated, broken rhythm.
our speed is often break neck. we need to slow it down.
tired of being sleepless. tired of being broken.
we are the bleeding hearts, beating syncopated, broken rhythm.
our speed is often break neck. we need to slow it down.
tired of being sleepless. tired of being broken.
my favorite players would be Jag Tanna (IME), John Fruciante(RHCP), and Dave Navarro (Janes Addiction and just about every pop star in the business),
James Black (f11) and Nigel Pulsford (bush) get honorable mentions too
PS I'm leaving out guitar greats like Page and Hendrix because well those guys are already assumed
James Black (f11) and Nigel Pulsford (bush) get honorable mentions too
PS I'm leaving out guitar greats like Page and Hendrix because well those guys are already assumed
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
yeah, I gotta go with jag tanna and dave navarro and to that list I would also add daniel johns(silverchair) and edge(u2, although he can almost be assumed)
I would also like to add to those of you who are bashing alternate tunings that make stuff easy to play, that music doesn't have to be complicated or hard to play to be good. Take Purple Haze by jimi hendrix, classic song by one of if not the great guitar player ever, and it's not at all complex or hard to play. the guitar solo at the end is just ONE note over and over with a bunch of bends. So is jimi hendrix a pussy because his music is easy to play? of course not and neither are some of these other people who's music is simple or easy to play.
I would also like to add to those of you who are bashing alternate tunings that make stuff easy to play, that music doesn't have to be complicated or hard to play to be good. Take Purple Haze by jimi hendrix, classic song by one of if not the great guitar player ever, and it's not at all complex or hard to play. the guitar solo at the end is just ONE note over and over with a bunch of bends. So is jimi hendrix a pussy because his music is easy to play? of course not and neither are some of these other people who's music is simple or easy to play.
it's the final product not how it's done......unless of course you wern't even playing it yourself...."How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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Sufjan Stevens
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Well, here's the way I see it. Power chords, if used correctly sound damn good, are not complicated, but people bash music for using them because they're so "basic." Well, that only means the people that insult the music I like for using power chords are looking for something complicated and technical.Dabekk wrote:I would also like to add to those of you who are bashing alternate tunings that make stuff easy to play, that music doesn't have to be complicated or hard to play to be good.
So all these people now look for something advanced and complicated. They turn to bands that use barre chords and 7ths and shit. People think it's so great that people are able to play these chords, when in most cases, they just tune the guitar a little differently and produce that sound by playing a bunch of open strings. I see nothing all that complicated in tuning a guitar a different way to produce the barre chord sound. If you want to play all these chords, be true to the music. Play it the way it's meant to be played. If you want to play a barre chord, you play a barre chord. Don't half-ass it by turning some keys at the top and holding down a string or two to produce some great sound.
So when people respect power chords and all their greatness, I will respect guitarists that just tune their guitar differently to hold down two strings to play such a "complicated" chord. That is all.
I faced death. I went in with my arms swinging. But I heard my own breath and had to face that I'm still living. I'm still flesh. I hold on to awful feelings. I'm not dead... My chest still draws breath. I hold it. I'm buoyant. There's no end.
yeah, i've never actually looked into Jag Tanna's tuning style, although i assume he doesn't down tune, but even if he does fuck it, go listen to the music it kicks almost all the guitar players asses out there, it's all about the music folks
PS not really too much of a point to that
PS not really too much of a point to that
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"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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Sufjan Stevens
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The most common complaint I hear about punk music is that "it sucks because they just use power chords, over and over again." I see no difference in playing power chords and playing a bunch of open strings. That's just what I feel. If you can't hack it and play real barre chords and 7ths and diminished chords, then you really shouldn't attempt playing them.
I faced death. I went in with my arms swinging. But I heard my own breath and had to face that I'm still living. I'm still flesh. I hold on to awful feelings. I'm not dead... My chest still draws breath. I hold it. I'm buoyant. There's no end.