I have read a bunch of you criticize the US for pulling out of the Kyoto Treaty and have been meaning to post this.
http://www.sepp.org/pressrel/petition.html
Global Warming?
oh sweet jesus you arn't actually going to try and debate global warming existing are you? Wure a few years ago maybe, but not now. Hell ask any Canadian how our winters are now compared to in the past. There's always going to be wacko's out there, you can find the flat world societies site too and find some articles debating that the world is flat.
you truly are the anti-thesis of me
you truly are the anti-thesis of me
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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I guess you would know better than the over 17,000 scientists that have said there is no proof that hydrocarbons do damage right? I think I'll trust the Dr's to your high school education.
Heres some more current links since you think my first one was so ancient.
http://users.erols.com/dhoyt1/
http://www.aim.org/publications/briefings/2002/27mar2002.html
http://www.abd.org.uk/pr/338.htm
If you would like more I have plenty. If global warming was indeed caused by emissions than by all means Kyoto is a good thing. I am a very enviromentally friendly person. I minored in Marine Biology because I am an animal (especially oceanic) lover. If we were hurting the environment beyond repair I would be the first one out protesting, but the facts are that global warming is not caused by emissions. These doomsday believers are cooky to say the least. NO SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE!!!!
"We urge the United States government to reject the global warming agreement that was written in Kyoto, Japan, in December 1997, and any other similar proposals. The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment, hinder the advance of science and technology, and damage the health and welfare of mankind.
There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth."
Heres some more current links since you think my first one was so ancient.
http://users.erols.com/dhoyt1/
http://www.aim.org/publications/briefings/2002/27mar2002.html
http://www.abd.org.uk/pr/338.htm
If you would like more I have plenty. If global warming was indeed caused by emissions than by all means Kyoto is a good thing. I am a very enviromentally friendly person. I minored in Marine Biology because I am an animal (especially oceanic) lover. If we were hurting the environment beyond repair I would be the first one out protesting, but the facts are that global warming is not caused by emissions. These doomsday believers are cooky to say the least. NO SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE!!!!
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I don't believe in global warming.
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Personally, I think global warming is a reality. Sure, it could be a theory but so is the whole idea of neutrons and protons...take it or leave it.
We could argue on and on about whether or not emissions cause global warming but what are these scientists thinking when they say that it's alright if we keep doing it. The emissions sent off into the air are a form of pollution and I don't think it's right to keep releasing it into the atmosphere without giving a second thought. Where do they think acid rain comes from?
We could argue on and on about whether or not emissions cause global warming but what are these scientists thinking when they say that it's alright if we keep doing it. The emissions sent off into the air are a form of pollution and I don't think it's right to keep releasing it into the atmosphere without giving a second thought. Where do they think acid rain comes from?
And if I don't make it known that
I've loved you all along
Just like sunny days that
We ignore because
We're all dumb and jaded
And I hope to God I figure out
What's wrong
~4am~
I've loved you all along
Just like sunny days that
We ignore because
We're all dumb and jaded
And I hope to God I figure out
What's wrong
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Global warming as a whole isn't a new thing. Global warming at the intensities it's reaching is a new thing, caused by humans.
Besides, lowering the excessive amounts of energy used in the world isn't a bad thing...
Besides, lowering the excessive amounts of energy used in the world isn't a bad thing...
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And though the hum and sway gets me down, I'll find the way to peace and openness.
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Every now and then I fall out into open air just to feel the wind, rain and everything.
And though the hum and sway gets me down, I'll find the way to peace and openness.
"Robbo" - © Alex (happeningfish)...^5 ^5 v v
I agree that the Earth itself has caused sways in temperature over the millions and millions of years, but I also believe that right now we're causing this temperature increase since at no other time has there been such a dramatic increase in temperature, and it seems as though it is because of us.
http://www.keelynet.com/global/co2pbs/charts.htm
There are other sites just like this, so Venom if you aren't impressed I'd gladly bring up more.
http://www.keelynet.com/global/co2pbs/charts.htm
There are other sites just like this, so Venom if you aren't impressed I'd gladly bring up more.
I can't wait until the day schools are over-funded and the military is forced to hold bake sales to buy planes.
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"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
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I agree that the Earth itself has caused sways in temperature over the millions and millions of years, but I also believe that right now we're causing this temperature increase since at no other time has there been such a dramatic increase in temperature, and it seems as though it is because of us.
How do you know there has never been "such a dramatic increase" before? Humans weren't around to measure this before. Just because its more dramatic now doesn't mean it hasn't done it before.
As to your link....yes I would love to see more. That is the experiments of 1 scientist. I showed you 17,000 that disagree. Plus one of your scientists arguements was about the increase of CO2 which many scientists argue is beneficial to the earth.
there's no such thing as global warming.
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let me drive my Skyline R34.
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i do think we are polluting the air excessively.....
but really, i highly doubt that we are causing the earths temperature to rise a degree every year or whatever the stats say.
i mean, jeeez, in 200 years people in Greece will be burnt to a crisp!
but really, i highly doubt that we are causing the earths temperature to rise a degree every year or whatever the stats say.
i mean, jeeez, in 200 years people in Greece will be burnt to a crisp!
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Guy: Her locker's down the hall, I've counted 17 from mine.
Girl: Does he see me? Does he even know that I'm close by?
Guy: We're in the hallway, always at half past nine.
Girl: Would he ever get to know me? Would he take the time?
[glow=brown]...Back in school they never taught us what we needed to know like how to deal with despair or someone breaking your heart...[/glow]
Guy: Her locker's down the hall, I've counted 17 from mine.
Girl: Does he see me? Does he even know that I'm close by?
Guy: We're in the hallway, always at half past nine.
Girl: Would he ever get to know me? Would he take the time?
[glow=brown]...Back in school they never taught us what we needed to know like how to deal with despair or someone breaking your heart...[/glow]
A friend of mine did a paper on this topic recently.
That sums up my opinion as well.
Eelco wrote:Global warming may not be caused by emissions, but that doesn't mean we can just pollute as much as we like.
That sums up my opinion as well.
don't look now, just keep watching the TV hating what's too see waiting for someone to say something that's right.
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hate to say it but greenhouse gases do cause global warming.
following the laws of thermodynamics,
mass in = mass out
energy in = out
therefore if you put mass and energy in (ie. greenhouse gases), they have to go somewhere. they don't just disappear into nothing.
following the laws of thermodynamics,
mass in = mass out
energy in = out
therefore if you put mass and energy in (ie. greenhouse gases), they have to go somewhere. they don't just disappear into nothing.
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http://seeyoufall.blogspot.com/
http://seeyoufall.blogspot.com/
exactly, the gases themselves act as a blanket over the earth, the same way that at one point gases turned our planet into a livable one.
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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lol andrew makes a point in all that depression
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month