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Kubrik's "Clockwork Orange"
Posted: 11/4/2003, 11:38 am
by Neil
Don't think I'm HORRIBLE - but I finally just saw this movie last night for my Criminology class.
Hell with saying "28 Days Later" was fucked up, this one (BY FAR) takes the cake for "fucked up epic" films.
I know there are lots of smart people in here: so perhaps you can help me out a bit. Our professor is allowing us to write a paper that is work a total of 4 points onto our final grade.
For those of you who have SEEN it (BTW....if you haven't, DO IT):
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* Discuss if the treatment Alex is given is fair....
* If you're familar with the philosophy's of punisment: discuss the ones seen in the film
* Discuss the effectiveness of the treatment.....are there elements that
reinforce the treatment?
* Does the government have an interest in the failure of the treatment?
Why or why not?
* Is the use of Beethoven as punishment accidental or purposeful? Why?
Posted: 11/4/2003, 2:37 pm
by Susan
I've heard of this movie, but I don't know what it's about. Care to explain it to me?
Posted: 11/4/2003, 2:45 pm
by Joanne
i havent seen it either but my dad said it was very mental...
agree... explain
Posted: 11/4/2003, 2:48 pm
by Random Name
I have it downstaires.
I saw the opening couple of scenes.
...never again will that grace my DVD player.
Posted: 11/4/2003, 3:36 pm
by thirdhour
I had heard alot about it, then at like 3 oclock in the morning we were flipping channels at my friends house and it was just randomly on.
I only saw part of it, and the part I did see was just some girl being raped, and a few parts in that kids house.
Posted: 11/4/2003, 4:01 pm
by Neil
su7an wrote:I've heard of this movie, but I don't know what it's about. Care to explain it to me?
http://movie-reviews.colossus.net/movie ... kwork.html
This basically explains the main focuses.......but I highly still recommend it. I will admit, that it does start out somewhat slowly, but if you don't watch it from the beginning you might find yourself dumbfounded.
Now, I need to find somebody thats actually watched it and might be able to help me out.

Posted: 11/4/2003, 5:34 pm
by veryoldshoelace
Iread the book, does that count?
Posted: 11/4/2003, 5:59 pm
by superrgirll
i've seen the movie. it's pretty good. heh, the lead singer from clarknova was dressed like one of the guys from the movie friday night.
Posted: 11/4/2003, 9:24 pm
by Narbus
Yes, I've seen it.
But do your own damn homework.

Posted: 11/5/2003, 7:52 am
by Lando
What A great show, i'd help u out neil but ur sig fucks up the computer, this post alone will take me 5 minutes.
Posted: 11/5/2003, 3:23 pm
by Automatic_Flowers
I've never seen the movie but I just finished reading the book a few weeks ago for an english ISU.. and I actually enjoyed it, but I don't think I want to see the movie. I don't think the punishment was fair to Alex, because in the end it did nothing. They reversed the brainwashing and then he suddenly grew up and decided violence wasn't the answer anyways. Of course the government had an interest in the failure because F.Alexander was telling everyone how the government totally corrupted Alex, even though he already was corrupted. But they had to have had an interest becasue they were the ones who initiated the reverse brainwashing. The one thing I want to know..for the people who've read the book.. what did they make him sign in the end? Did I just miss it, or did they not say it?
Posted: 11/5/2003, 7:30 pm
by teelow
Lando wrote:What A great show, i'd help u out neil but ur sig fucks up the computer, this post alone will take me 5 minutes.
I hear ya al. I hear ya loud.
Anyways, yes Clockwork Orange is one fucked up, but interesting movie. I missed the beginning but managed to catch the ending 2 hours or something. Yeah, I hope I see it again soon.
Posted: 11/6/2003, 11:41 am
by Neil
Lando wrote:What A great show, i'd help u out neil but ur sig fucks up the computer, this post alone will take me 5 minutes.
I'll remove the signature if you'll lend Neil a hand (Lando).......I'm stuck with parts of this sucker and I could REALLY use the extra points because I didn't fare so well on the mid-term.
Posted: 11/7/2003, 8:54 pm
by Neil
Aight Lando - u did away with my sig.......I wanna hear a bit of your views.
I agree with whoever said the government had an interest, and what I stated for the paper is basically the same thing.
If I don't get one of you really smart people on here to help me out.......I'll have to consult my friend who is in the class with me, and he's the type that mostly likes to "BS" his way through. No time for BS on this sucka haha.
Posted: 11/8/2003, 10:20 pm
by thirdhour
BSing is fuuuun
Speaking of BS...Does anybody know if there actually is such thing as a Criminal Code of Canada, because I mentioned it several times in my debate today because it sounded cool, but I think I may have made it up

Posted: 11/9/2003, 12:12 pm
by Neil
egh......this paper isn't happening

I have to turn it in at the start of class tomorrow nite (5:00) and its now after 1:00 on Sunday and I have NO ambition to actually try to structure this sucker.
Posted: 11/9/2003, 3:46 pm
by happening fish
of course there's a criminal code, yannic, it's how the gov't determines what's a crime

Posted: 11/9/2003, 3:48 pm
by Neil
NEIL'S ALMOST DONE WITH HIS PAPER!!
Man, did I B.S. my own way through this thing

I'm gonna post it as an attachment when I'm done, and I'm hoping somebody will read it (who's seen the movie) and give me a bit of upsight.
My class isn't until 5:00 pm tomorrow, so I'll still have plenty of time to made adjustments.
Posted: 11/9/2003, 4:07 pm
by Neil
Ok.....its FIN.
I need critical reviews.....I did the best that I could. She was asking for 2-4 pages and I just got into the 4th page before I started to run out of steam.
Click the attachment below, word application.
Posted: 11/9/2003, 4:08 pm
by Neil
ok, wheres my attachment? haha