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Posted: 2/12/2003, 2:04 pm
by lora
what's the big deal?
people admire george bush's opinion (:uh:). people can admire mr. good's opinion just as well.

Posted: 2/12/2003, 2:42 pm
by Bandalero
starvingeyes wrote:reno

in the early 1940's the CIA launched operation MOCKINGBIRD which entailed the insertion of CIA operatives in high level positions across the american media, thus allowing them to control what is and is not printed.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCH ... gbird.html


ok, that's understandable, but did you ever consider that independent media is stubling over stuff planted by the US there to throw them off? after all the goverment is that ruthless, to get their own look out in the media and not anybody elses.

i personally like independent media, i think they bring good arguments to the table. when it's used well, i think it can really keep the goverment honest, but of course the goverment doesn't want to be honest now do they? that's why i suspect that it could be lead on by the goverment as well. so i tell you what i'm going to do, i'm going to blurt out hard facts, nothing else. nothing from the media.

bush is a moron...ok, ok no points for that it's too obvious.

sadam is a threat. that's why turkey wants Patriot missle batteries. you cannot deny that he invaded kuwait with bad intentions the first time.

N. Korea is starting the Nuclear program up again, after the US bribed them not to with oil, food and whatever else. they have starving people, and when people are starving they get desperate.

the ship that was sunk that started the Spanish American war is still underwater. divers have gone down and looked at the hull and found overwhelming evedince that the blast came from inside the ship. not outside like the goverment told us.

Posted: 2/13/2003, 10:23 pm
by I AM ME
i respect you way more then Venom Reno, you seem to have your own oppions and don't seem to be quite so naive as a certain other somebody around here..... :roll:

were you arguing against me about the spanish american war thing? i don't seem to follow what point you were making

and lastly, i was just saying matt had very good points, which he did, you can't really deny anything he said

Posted: 2/14/2003, 12:33 pm
by Bandalero
no, no, i was confirming what you said, the ships explosion came from inside, it wasn't torpedo'ed like the government thought. :)

Posted: 2/15/2003, 12:25 pm
by I AM ME
cool :mrgreen:

Posted: 2/15/2003, 4:58 pm
by Axtech
Clumsyboy wrote:and lastly, i was just saying matt had very good points, which he did, you can't really deny anything he said


Yes, I can. :)

He said that OLP sucks and that everything of OLPs sounds the same. I can deny that. :P

Posted: 2/16/2003, 10:02 pm
by I AM ME
lol, yeah i guess, but his oppion on a band is slightly more trivial then world affairs, he was asked a question and he gave his honest oppion just like many of us would give it, it really wasn't as huge a rant as the press turned it into, they just wanted to see a fight between Canadian stars

Posted: 2/17/2003, 7:28 pm
by Canadian Coast Guard
I'll put this in very simple terms for you Venom. You, and people like you, are why the world thinks Americans are a bunch of stuckup dumbasses.


Quick Note on the Side:
The CIA supported Saddam's WMD program due to the fear of a secular muslim country being overrun by an extremist regimine (Iran).

The most common misconception: The 10,000 people supposedly gassed by Saddam was actually the work of Iranian chemical weapons.

Posted: 2/18/2003, 11:45 pm
by Bandalero
that still doesn't exclude the fact that some soilders even today are suffering from gulf war sindrome. the chemicals that cause this are not accounted for, therefore they are either lost or being stored.

Posted: 2/19/2003, 10:15 am
by starvingeyes
gulf war syndrome was caused by contaminated vaccines given to the us soldiers to prevent them from contracting an iraqui nerve agent.

Posted: 2/19/2003, 5:36 pm
by Canadian Coast Guard
The US doesn't have a good track record when it comes to spraying it's own warships with chemical and biological agents.

Posted: 2/19/2003, 11:31 pm
by Bandalero
ok then even if that was true, that still doesn't justify the misallocated chemical weapons that Iraq has.

Posted: 2/20/2003, 10:08 pm
by I AM ME
iraq is very dangerous and they need to be taken out, but not the citizens of iraq, Saddam, by waging war you are harming the citizens, Assination on the other hand kills the Dictator and opens it up for actual free elections, the ppl of iraq hate Saddam as much as we do

Posted: 2/21/2003, 8:23 am
by Venom
If you knew what you were talking about you would know that there is an international law against assasination by a government or government body.

Posted: 2/21/2003, 10:06 am
by starvingeyes
o please! you are amazingly naive if you don't think the us government has tried to assisinate people before. it's called the CIA. haven't you ever heard of "black ops"?

man.

Posted: 2/21/2003, 11:05 am
by Venom
Oh I know it happens, but if they did that now it would be obvious and the government would be punished for it. I don't agree with the law because it would be a great solution to the problem.

Posted: 2/21/2003, 11:38 am
by starvingeyes
no, the government wouldn't get punished for it because the government wouldn't know.

it would be performed by the cia without the approval or knowledge of congress.

they can do this whenever they want and they have in the past.

Posted: 2/21/2003, 1:00 pm
by Venom
The government would be punished for it because the CIA is a government body and would be held accountable for their actions. People around the world wouldn't just criticize the CIA they would criticize all of America and you know it.

Posted: 2/21/2003, 2:39 pm
by Bandalero
there have been 100's of attempts on Sadam's life.

His own mother didn't want her baby and would slam her stomach on a wall in an attempt to kill her baby. aside from that rebels have tried as well as independent mercenaries. this guy isn't going down that easy.