Not trying to sound anal here but 4 a.m. on A Decade was actually a new mix, which is different from remastering. I know what you mean in terms of it making a huge difference in bringing certain things out though, sometimes it can help the sonic qualities and boost clarity of things quite a bit so that you hear things that were previously more difficult to in other mastered versions. Was One Man Army a new mix too or was it simply remastered as well, does anybody know?RileyLewis wrote:I think we can all see the first pressing will be great quality in terms of production, as even the low-quality web rip sounded very tight (with the exception of that one part on Find Our Way, I think).
But remastering can make a huge difference. Listen to 4AM or One Man Army on the A Decade CD vs the originals. Huge difference. Some sounds were brought out more prominently, etc. Not saying that is the norm, but it definitely can be a difference.
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The beginning had to be a new mix. Just bringing up the volume on it; a remastering wouldn't have brought it out that much compared to the original.
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Absolutely. I'm not disagreeing that there can be huge differences, just saying that the situation here doesn't really disappoint me.
Mixing and mastering are both partly objective -- making sure all the tracks sync perfectly, and that it sounds cohesive and convincing as a single piece of music rather than bits and pieces. Beyond that, making some sounds more prominent etc like with the 4am and One Man Army remasters, can get very subjective. I think that there are some imperfections with the mastering in Rabbits, and perhaps an imperfection with the mix at that one spot in Find Our Way (not quite sure yet on that one, it might sound better at full CD quality). So that will be cool if it's remastered and those are improved.
But even with those issues and listening to the lower quality stream rip, I'm already blown away by the production on this album, the tones they've achieved (the verses in Find Our Way for example) sound absolutely incredible. It's still early to say, but I think it could be one of their finest albums in terms of production. Cannot wait to hear the actual CD on good headphones.
Mixing and mastering are both partly objective -- making sure all the tracks sync perfectly, and that it sounds cohesive and convincing as a single piece of music rather than bits and pieces. Beyond that, making some sounds more prominent etc like with the 4am and One Man Army remasters, can get very subjective. I think that there are some imperfections with the mastering in Rabbits, and perhaps an imperfection with the mix at that one spot in Find Our Way (not quite sure yet on that one, it might sound better at full CD quality). So that will be cool if it's remastered and those are improved.
But even with those issues and listening to the lower quality stream rip, I'm already blown away by the production on this album, the tones they've achieved (the verses in Find Our Way for example) sound absolutely incredible. It's still early to say, but I think it could be one of their finest albums in terms of production. Cannot wait to hear the actual CD on good headphones.
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I'm 99% sure these are accurate after listening to the Acoustic version and the studio version back to back.
Allowance
Skies like angels turn to rust
We hide inside our pickup trucks
Thoughts heavy like aeroplanes
Come crashing down and burst in flames, oh
Memories, I'd cash them in for peace of mind
And some discipline, yeah, oh
No turning back
I'm starting to mend
A fortunate man I've always been
I tear at my heart
If I don't concede
I'm only as good as you allow me to be
Friends will come and friends will go
You my friend own my soul
Raindrops plummet from the sky
Inside my lungs, a battle cry, yeah, oh
No turning back
I'm starting to mend
A fortunate man I've always been
I tear at my heart
If I don't concede
I'm only as good as you allow me to be
Oh, I'm starting, starting, starting to mend
As you allow me to be
Oh, I'm starting, starting, starting to mend, yeah
As you allow me to be
Oh, I'm starting, starting, starting to mend
Skies like angels turn to rust
We hide inside our pickup trucks
Allowance
Skies like angels turn to rust
We hide inside our pickup trucks
Thoughts heavy like aeroplanes
Come crashing down and burst in flames, oh
Memories, I'd cash them in for peace of mind
And some discipline, yeah, oh
No turning back
I'm starting to mend
A fortunate man I've always been
I tear at my heart
If I don't concede
I'm only as good as you allow me to be
Friends will come and friends will go
You my friend own my soul
Raindrops plummet from the sky
Inside my lungs, a battle cry, yeah, oh
No turning back
I'm starting to mend
A fortunate man I've always been
I tear at my heart
If I don't concede
I'm only as good as you allow me to be
Oh, I'm starting, starting, starting to mend
As you allow me to be
Oh, I'm starting, starting, starting to mend, yeah
As you allow me to be
Oh, I'm starting, starting, starting to mend
Skies like angels turn to rust
We hide inside our pickup trucks
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One Man Army was a new mix, the beginning is very different, a lot of things are panned differently (drums and the sampled noises are basically reversed) while others are panned similar to the original (the guitar solo) and different EQ and effects are used throughout. The original was better though.DudeLove721 wrote:Was One Man Army a new mix too or was it simply remastered as well, does anybody know?
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Need this in CD quality NOW
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Allowance is really good when played acoustically. I'm impressed. Also Raine's voice sounds less-mumbley than normal, which bodes well for the tour.
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I agree, enjoying Allowance much more in this acoustic version, and also in the clip we heard before. Hopefully with however they mix it, it'll sound better on the CD because I'm not feeling it yet.RileyLewis wrote:Allowance is really good when played acoustically. I'm impressed. Also Raine's voice sounds less-mumbley than normal, which bodes well for the tour.
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Thanks for the clarification, I haven't listened to that version of the song but remembered some aspect of it sounding different -- I thought I was going crazy at the time because they'd said 4 a.m. was a new mix upon release but never said up front that OMA was. Good to know!faninor wrote:One Man Army was a new mix, the beginning is very different, a lot of things are panned differently (drums and the sampled noises are basically reversed) while others are panned similar to the original (the guitar solo) and different EQ and effects are used throughout. The original was better though.DudeLove721 wrote:Was One Man Army a new mix too or was it simply remastered as well, does anybody know?
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So apparently I haven't logged into this place in 4 years. Crazy, right? But this new album has me very excited. So I'm back and have so much to catch up on!
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I ordered the album in America through Rhino Records Canada. Anyone know if I will get it on the Canadian release date or American? I'm just so looking forward to listening to and having the album (and autographs!).
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I believe all pre-orders (Canadian and U.S.) are shipped to arrive on the 3rd.
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Hey everybody! OLP has been my favorite band since 1997 when I first heard Superman's Dead. I've been a member of the clumsymonkey forums in the past, but it's been so long since I visited I couldn't figure out my login info, so I made this new account.
I live in The States, so for the past four days I've been waiting patiently to get a chance to hear the new album. American fans? Sucks to be us. I've been reading the forum here, listening to giddy Canadian fans sing the praises of the new record, and I desperately want to hear it. Could one of you lucky, lucky people be so kind as to PM me the stream?
Thanks in advance!
I live in The States, so for the past four days I've been waiting patiently to get a chance to hear the new album. American fans? Sucks to be us. I've been reading the forum here, listening to giddy Canadian fans sing the praises of the new record, and I desperately want to hear it. Could one of you lucky, lucky people be so kind as to PM me the stream?
Thanks in advance!
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::wipes away a tear:: You guys are the best. Thanks to ArkaneOne and RileyLewis for hooking a brother up. 

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Anybody have a link for the stream for another poor fan from the States? Not sure how long it's going to take for my pre-order to arrive with the border crossing and all. Can't wait to see the boys at the Town Ballroom!
Thank you much. Look forward to rocking out with some of you in the near future!
Thank you much. Look forward to rocking out with some of you in the near future!
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Listening to the album again today I started thinking that the part with the guitar solo in If This Is It could have been even more epic if it had some killer falsetto "haaaaaaaiiiiiii" from Raine like in the old days
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So I just listened to Heavyweight for the first time today. As much as I loved this band, the last few albums have just totally lacked any inspiration to me. And now, I can't believe this is the same band. Totally blew me away. I guess I am going to keep buying their albums!
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Goodbye you liar,
Well you sipped from the cup but you don't own up to anything
Then you think you will inspire
Take apart your head
(and I wish I could inspire)
Take apart your demons, then you add it to the list.
Goodbye you liar,
Well you sipped from the cup but you don't own up to anything
Then you think you will inspire
Take apart your head
(and I wish I could inspire)
Take apart your demons, then you add it to the list.
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Welcome back Sarah, yes "Heavyweight" is great and you'll love Curve too.
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IT'S YOU! IT'S REALLY YOU!Random Name wrote:So I just listened to Heavyweight for the first time today. As much as I loved this band, the last few albums have just totally lacked any inspiration to me. And now, I can't believe this is the same band. Totally blew me away. I guess I am going to keep buying their albums!
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Stuck inside of this.
Waiting for something else,

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I'm probably dumb for asking this, but where was this Acoustic Version of "Allowance"? Is it on the Sony Unlimited. I'm still waiting out till Tuesday to hear the album, but an acoustic song has intrigued me.