New Album in 2012 - "Curve" April 3rd

Heavy Alibi · Post by **Heavy Alibi** » 5/7/2011, 4:12 am

RileyLewis wrote:
Not to be a Debbie Downer, but this is said before every single album.

I'd argue that we have hard evidence from Trusty's clips that the music OLP is creating for this record is indeed some of their most impressive work ever, or at least in very many years. I have very high hopes for this album, and I trust that the boys are increasingly realizing their potential and ability as artists; they understand the hard work that is needed from them to make this 8th album live up to their ass-kicking back catalog.

Heavy Alibi · Post by **Heavy Alibi** » 5/7/2011, 4:26 am

Joe Cooler wrote:
Strong Alibi wrote: Sounds a lot like a "modern rock" song to me, even though Raine has kept saying "R.I.P. Modern Rock" in all his tweets about the album. Not that I don't like it, it's definitely catchy.
What is modern rock anyway?

When Raine refers to it I am thinking he means mainstream rock of the generic, "catchy", vacuous, Nickelbackey, uninspired variety. Something with no real soul that any plastic corporate-puppet band could write and perform; nothing special. One could argue that TEIWWB and possibly AYDWSML (the Burn Burn singles, not coincidentally) fell into that category. It's something OLP seems to have started experimenting with in Somewhere Out There.

(Not saying those OLP songs are bad... all OLP songs are good

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Flynner · Post by **Flynner** » 5/7/2011, 9:22 am

Thanks for the updates Trusty

MindsOnLoan · Post by **MindsOnLoan** » 5/7/2011, 3:03 pm

Really hope Album 8 has more songs in the vein of The Wolf... While a lot of these songs are sounding great, a big problem with Burn Burn was that everything was too ballad-y and there wasn't enough energy. Not even mid-tempo rockers, which the band has had plenty of great ones before.

ClumsyGirl618 · Post by **ClumsyGirl618** » 5/7/2011, 4:30 pm

MindsOnLoan wrote:Really hope Album 8 has more songs in the vein of The Wolf... While a lot of these songs are sounding great, a big problem with Burn Burn was that everything was too ballad-y and there wasn't enough energy. Not even mid-tempo rockers, which the band has had plenty of great ones before.

I agree. Don't get me wrong. I really like Burn Burn but the only non bonus album track that was high energy was a song about butterflies.. hee hee

John Bob the Great · Post by **John Bob the Great** » 5/7/2011, 4:43 pm

I just hope the album isn't so short this time!

RileyLewis · Post by **RileyLewis** » 5/7/2011, 5:56 pm

I bought Burn Burn by OLP and Vancouver my Matt Good around the same time. Here's the track length:

OLP:
10 songs, 38 minutes.

MG:
10 songs, 57 minutes.

57 minutes may be too long for some (though one song was almost 10 minutes so that raises the average), but some songs on Burn Burn barely made 3 minutes.

When every song is just verse-chorus-verse-chorus-bridge-chorus, it goes by really quickly. Heck, most of those Matt Good songs only have 2 choruses!

Each band is different, but if you're only putting 10 songs on an album (I think 11 or 12 is the sweet spot), then they can't be over too fast.

I want a 45 minute album again!

Naveed: 47 min
Clumsy: 45 min
Happiness: 43 min
Spiritual: 40 min (just the actual music)
Gravity: 41 min
Healthy: 45 min
Burn Burn: 38 min

I forgot to mention one other thing: Intros and outros are not your enemy! It's ok to have no vocals for the first 30-60 seconds sometimes! It adds to the emotional depth of a song to just have the instruments playing.

Matt. · Post by **Matt.** » 5/7/2011, 9:27 pm

I've always felt that if a record dares to venture over the 40 minute mark, you'd better have something important to say. Quality always trumps quantity.

Kicker774 · Post by **Kicker774** » 5/7/2011, 10:01 pm

RileyLewis wrote: I forgot to mention one other thing: Intros and outros are not your enemy! It's ok to have no vocals for the first 30-60 seconds sometimes! It adds to the emotional depth of a song to just have the instruments playing.

I like this idea.
Feel free to throw out an instrumental track or two out there.

OLPManiac · Post by **OLPManiac** » 5/8/2011, 12:06 pm

http://youtu.be/9lXw-MU7zV0

This song sounds like an amazing song!!! Can't wait!!!!!!!!!!

MindsOnLoan · Post by **MindsOnLoan** » 5/8/2011, 12:30 pm

I expected the dog to piss on Duncan since the video is called "An Accident" lol. But I dig that snippet! I could kinda see it going into something kinda like Kiss on the Mouth and eventually exploding towards the end.

Flynner · Post by **Flynner** » 5/8/2011, 2:17 pm

That song sounds really really cool, a lot of body to it

RileyLewis · Post by **RileyLewis** » 5/8/2011, 2:22 pm

It sounds ok, but nothing great. But we've only heard one line.

Post by **xjsb125** » 5/8/2011, 3:47 pm

RileyLewis wrote:I bought Burn Burn by OLP and Vancouver my Matt Good around the same time. Here's the track length:

OLP:
10 songs, 38 minutes.

MG:
10 songs, 57 minutes.

57 minutes may be too long for some (though one song was almost 10 minutes so that raises the average), but some songs on Burn Burn barely made 3 minutes.

When every song is just verse-chorus-verse-chorus-bridge-chorus, it goes by really quickly. Heck, most of those Matt Good songs only have 2 choruses!

Each band is different, but if you're only putting 10 songs on an album (I think 11 or 12 is the sweet spot), then they can't be over too fast.

I want a 45 minute album again!

Naveed: 47 min
Clumsy: 45 min
Happiness: 43 min
Spiritual: 40 min (just the actual music)
Gravity: 41 min
Healthy: 45 min
Burn Burn: 38 min

I forgot to mention one other thing: Intros and outros are not your enemy! It's ok to have no vocals for the first 30-60 seconds sometimes! It adds to the emotional depth of a song to just have the instruments playing.

Vancouver = Terrible album. 57 minutes of bullshit music and Matt Good crying about how he hates his city. At least he got smart and moved out. This won a Juno because his record company didn't have anybody else to buy one for.

DG · Post by DG » 5/8/2011, 5:43 pm

Another clip that I'm really liking. It's got depth.

RileyLewis · Post by **RileyLewis** » 5/8/2011, 5:44 pm

It wasn't his best work, but it had some really great tracks on it: Last Parade, Great Whales of the Sea, Empty's Theme Park.

But even taking that one away, look at arguably his best album, Avalanche. That was 69 minutes, 13 tracks.

I agree that you can't just have length, you need quality. But Burn Burn lacked both. It had some good songs, but was a little too short and simple for me.

I like that they are putting more thought into this one. 4 guys in a room may work to produce songs that are easy to play live, but CDs aren't live.

Playing live you can afford to lose a few subtleties, since the experience of a live band makes up for it. But on a CD, you want things to be a bit more complicated so that it remains enjoyable over longer periods.

Heavy Alibi · Post by **Heavy Alibi** » 5/8/2011, 6:48 pm

I wonder if the album is going to be finished before autumn? Hope so

ivewaited · Post by **ivewaited** » 5/8/2011, 7:29 pm

WHAT ARE YOU WAIIIIIITNG FORRRRR...

holy shit, excuse me w/ the language, but i think this sounds better than anything i've ever heard by them. close.

MindsOnLoan · Post by **MindsOnLoan** » 5/8/2011, 7:33 pm

ivewaited wrote:WHAT ARE YOU WAIIIIIITNG FORRRRR...

holy shit, excuse me w/ the language, but i think this sounds better than anything i've ever heard by them. close.

Really? That's my least favorite song-in-progress I've heard.

Strong Alibi wrote:I wonder if the album is going to be finished before autumn? Hope so

Lol @ the MAJOR post change

Codes · Post by **Codes** » 5/8/2011, 11:06 pm

The Wolf is the best thing ive heard so far

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New Album in 2012 - "Curve" April 3rd