Views On OLP

naveed99 · Post by **naveed99** » 7/2/2005, 7:53 pm

I've surfed around here for awhile, and noticed that there isnt much positive feedback about the band going around. Everyone is complaining, and saying how much they hate this new sound. I think everyone is stuck way too far back in the clumsy days, people still havnt gotten over the fact the band has changed. It seems as if most of you guys are just sitting around waiting to see if they will revert their sound back a few years, even a little bit.

Although they've made a huge change in direction, it isnt bad. They just chose a BAD single. This album will be 100x better then gravity. For those who have heard the other songs, they are good. Angels loosing sleep and dont stop are great songs, and walking in circles and wipe that smile off your face are good live songs. The others sounded great too.

Axtech · Post by **Axtech** » 7/2/2005, 7:59 pm

Musical taste is subjective. I understand that the band is taking a new direction, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. I've become known for not liking post-SM OLP. However, I've also spoken out about the things they've done right. Being a long standing board full of members who have joined from any time in the last 3-4 years, there is always going to be a wide range of opinions on any subject, not least of all on the direction of OLP. But they're just that - opinions.

reza · Post by **reza** » 7/2/2005, 8:02 pm

I don't see this thread going anywhere nice

naveed99 · Post by **naveed99** » 7/2/2005, 8:09 pm

Your right about the opinions, Im glad for the new direction they took. I just think releasing "where are you" as a single amongst those other good songs ( you have to admit, they are better then gravity and mroe inclined towards to older OLP) was the worst choice they could make. Where are you gives a bad rep. of the album. It makes it seem really pop, and unintelligent. I think they would have been many more times successful with some of their other songs. Even for Live 8, playing "where are you" which has never before been played live, on one of their largest performances, after not playing for a year, was a mistake. In my opinion, they should have played some of their familiar and well-known songs that they, and others are used too, then debuted where are you in a smaller setting.

Furious George · Post by **Furious George** » 7/2/2005, 9:27 pm

I appreciate the fact that they're looking to try something new and I think from what we've heard of the new album, it definately shows. Just the whole recording process itself sounds completely fresh and unlike anything out there. OLP may be wearing out for some, but it doesn't mean they don't still try.

reza · Post by **reza** » 7/2/2005, 9:49 pm

I think that what is unsettling to most fans is that they aren't sure if their favourite band is selling out or just maturing. I've noticed that OLP have gone from being an Alt-Rock band to being a pure rock band in the span of just a few years.

Furious George · Post by **Furious George** » 7/2/2005, 9:54 pm

It'd be fine with me if OLP turned into a dance/techno band as long as their music is still good.

superrgirll · Post by **superrgirll** » 7/2/2005, 9:55 pm

do you like dance/techno music?

Furious George · Post by **Furious George** » 7/2/2005, 10:17 pm

I'm telling you.. the Superman's Dead techno remix will put the band back on top....

Flea21212 · Post by **Flea21212** » 7/2/2005, 11:01 pm

wow, all good posts above, you guys were able to make your points very well and no spaming either.

I like every olp album some more than others. However, I put in "Spiritual Machines" the other day, turned it up loud and listened to it on a long drive at night. And I couldn't get over how great this album is. I mean each song has so much going on in them and it made me really think that OLP were very close to becoming the next Radiohead, and in fact I see that album as olp's "Ok Computer" If you listen to the layering and the textures in some of the songs you really can find a lot of similarites to Radiohead.

And now we have their new stuff (granted I really like Gravity with the exception of Innocent and Made of Steel). But this new stuff just seems, well it seems way too teenie-boppy, like Good Charolte type music.

The stuff that I loved about OLP's older material is that every song has feeling to them and you can connect with them personally. The new single, while it's somewhat catchy and a decent song, I"m not able to connect with it. I feel that it lacks the maturity that I found in old OLP music.

I have no problem with OLP trying to go with a different style, but I liked the dirrection they were heading in when they made "Bring Back The Sun" better than how the new single sounds.

Now with all that said, just what I've heard of some of the other clips, I think that there is still great promise for the rest of this album.

PeaceEleven · Post by **PeaceEleven** » 7/2/2005, 11:05 pm

"Since when is it Bullsh*t to state a preference?" High Fidelity

I really think everyone around must have their opinions, we all have the right to let everyone know what we think , that is the beauty of the speech freedom. If you read more positive then negative feedback about their albums and direction skip the ones you don't like or don't read them or add your comments on them but everyone has the right to have their voices heard. I really do think it's important, we're a community, a wonderful one and to discuss is a part of it.

SpiritualJunkie · Post by **SpiritualJunkie** » 7/3/2005, 2:33 am

Free speech is one thing but constantly bitching about a band you're clearly not into anymore is another thing.

If you don't like OLP anymore or aren't looking forward to anymore of their new stuff, then WTF is the point of coming in here and whining about it?

While I agree that "Where Are You?" was the worst possible choice for a single release, I still have hope for the rest of the album. That was my least favourite of the promo clips and I don't completely hate it so it can only get better from here.

Neon Soul · Post by **Neon Soul** » 7/3/2005, 4:26 am

I think that where are you is an ok song even though it is bad compared to their other stuff. OLP arent the first band to bring out a bad song and from the clips like picture i'm looking forward to the new album.

reza · Post by **reza** » 7/3/2005, 8:39 am

SpiritualJunkie wrote: If you don't like OLP anymore or aren't looking forward to anymore of their new stuff, then WTF is the point of coming in here and whining about it?

Because this board has been around long enough to see OLP through many different styles, some people still miss the old sound, others are embracing the new one. There isn't anything wrong with having another perspective, even if it is OLP bashing. You're a fan, you have to look at the band critically, it isn't your duty to love everything they do just because they stamped their names on the album. If the CM turned into something like SM...that would just plain suck.

Tattooed Angels · Post by **Tattooed Angels** » 7/3/2005, 9:54 am

naveed99 wrote:I've surfed around here for awhile, and noticed that there isnt much positive feedback about the band going around. Everyone is complaining, and saying how much they hate this new sound. I think everyone is stuck way too far back in the clumsy days, people still havnt gotten over the fact the band has changed. It seems as if most of you guys are just sitting around waiting to see if they will revert their sound back a few years, even a little bit.

Although they've made a huge change in direction, it isnt bad. They just chose a BAD single. This album will be 100x better then gravity. For those who have heard the other songs, they are good. Angels loosing sleep and dont stop are great songs, and walking in circles and wipe that smile off your face are good live songs. The others sounded great too.

you shouldn't make assumptions on everyone on this board. Not everyone is *negative * on OLP, .. We all have our opinionis and likes. Some like the newer stuff, some don't..

As Rob(axtech) said in a different thread..Some have been around here along time aand you get to know people's likes and dislikes..

and you are wrong. I don;t think people are stuck in the Clumsy Days as you say.. Some may disaaprove of the new direction, but to say everyone is complaining is not only pre-mature but wrong..

naveed99 · Post by **naveed99** » 7/3/2005, 3:16 pm

Well outwardly that is how it seems at least. By stuck in the clumsy days though I am right. Think about it, Would you be a fan of OLP if "where are you" was their very first single and HIPT their first album? Would they still attract you? I dont know, but for me, I would not have gotten into them if this was their first stuff. We are OLP fans because we were really attracted by the complexity of the early albums. Every song was deep, and had som,ething amazing behind them. There was something behind all those songs that was just....relevent. But Im OK with their new direction. Im still a fan, it just feel as if they kind of abandoned their original fans.

It wasnt on purpose they did this though, I think they were getting sick of the old stuff, and wanted to move on.

Axtech · Post by **Axtech** » 7/3/2005, 3:37 pm

"Stuck in the Clumsy days" suggests that we want the band to make another album just like Clumsy, or that we only like the type of music on Clumsy, but that's not true at all. I want the band to continue their tradition of making new albums with new sounds.

The fact that I don't like the direction they've chosen does not mean that I want them to go back to the way they were at all.

And you're right, I would not like the band if the only album in their catalogue was Gravity, or just HIPT. But I still love the band's first four albums. Does that mean I'm "stuck in the past"? No. I still listen to a lot of new music. But liking the first four albums doesn't mean I have to force myself to like their new material.

Tattooed Angels · Post by **Tattooed Angels** » 7/3/2005, 3:43 pm

naveed99 wrote:Well outwardly that is how it seems at least. By stuck in the clumsy days though I am right. Think about it, Would you be a fan of OLP if "where are you" was their very first single and HIPT their first album? Would they still attract you? I dont know, but for me, I would not have gotten into them if this was their first stuff. We are OLP fans because we were really attracted by the complexity of the early albums. Every song was deep, and had som,ething amazing behind them. There was something behind all those songs that was just....relevent. But Im OK with their new direction. Im still a fan, it just feel as if they kind of abandoned their original fans.

It wasnt on purpose they did this though, I think they were getting sick of the old stuff, and wanted to move on.

You also can't assume why some of us are fans, etc.. You have no clue why some of us love the band.. It could be any number of reasons from the music to image. I don't have a problem with opinion. What I have a problem with is your assumption that everyone got into the band or likes/dislikes the band for the same reasons you do.. That is what bothers me about your post..

Only OLP know why the are going the directoin they are going. We, as fans or admirers, have no clue..

Please stop assuming everyone feels the same as you do..

naveed99 · Post by **naveed99** » 7/3/2005, 3:56 pm

I never assumed that, no need to take it seriously, its not a big deal. Im just saying those are some pretty common reasons. Alot of people are attracted by the relevance and complexity of the older albums.

Tattooed Angels · Post by **Tattooed Angels** » 7/3/2005, 4:14 pm

naveed99 wrote:I never assumed that, no need to take it seriously, its not a big deal. Im just saying those are some pretty common reasons. Alot of people are attracted by the relevance and complexity of the older albums.

do you read your post that you write. First post you wrote and I quote "EVERYONE IS COMPLAINING" then in a later post say "WE ARE OLP FANS CAUSE OF TH E COMPLEXITY OF THEIR EARLY ALBUMS"

if that isn'tan assumption then what is it..

I do take it seriously cause you are lumping me into a group as to why I like or dislike OLP.. Same with everyone else on this board. If you feel that way, then say your opinion, but don' say stuff like EVERYONE or WE.. That is an assumption of the whole board of fans..

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