Self-Harm

Cole · Post by **Cole** » 9/30/2004, 11:33 pm

Just curious to see people's opinions on this issue.....

Joe Cooler · Post by **Joe Cooler** » 9/30/2004, 11:38 pm

Absolutely hate the thought of it but i'd NEVER condem anyone who did it. And by condem I mean tell them they are stupid or something along those lines.

Henrietta · Post by **Henrietta** » 10/1/2004, 12:24 am

Touchy subject, I'm willing to bet, around here.

I have never done it, not that I haven't been tempted. But I can't shake the feeling that someone put that idea into my head and it isn't something I'd do naturally.

Korzic · Post by **Korzic** » 10/1/2004, 12:40 am

I was going to go off on a rant about suicide then i realised that wasnt the point to this thread. You can't condemn those who have. Although lately it seems to be the latest high school fad, a bit like bisexuality among girls. The thought that physical pain eases the emotional pain. I dunno I know lots who have, and to some even the mitigating circumstances. Its preferable you dont but not a terrible sin if you do.

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Cole · Post by **Cole** » 10/1/2004, 1:53 am

Korzic wrote:I was going to go off on a rant about suicide then i realised that wasnt the point to this thread. You can't condemn those who have. Although lately it seems to be the latest high school fad, a bit like bisexuality among girls. The thought that physical pain eases the emotional pain. i dunno I know lots who have, and to some even the mitigating circumsatnces. Its prefereable you dont but not a terrible sin if you do.

tis true, it is becoming a fad and it's a sad thing. i've noticed it at my school. but then again..i go to an alternate school, with a bunch of depressed, drop/kick outs or people who are too openly gay for the real program......i think the reason for that though is because a lot of teenages are under a lot of stress...some more so than others...someone may hear about self-harm and think 'omg, if that makes them feel better, maybe it will make me feel better to!'...obviously it isn't going to work the same for everyone, and it won't last long for those people at least...you know..but i think that's part of what causes the fad, anyway.
i used to do it, and i just sorta had a 'relapse' last night, that's why it's on my mind.....and before i started, i never realised what it was...weird thing. i find that it's unexplainable and when you try to explain it you just make yourself look dumb. lol

nelison · Post by **nelison** » 10/1/2004, 8:47 am

There are better solutions. If you're that depressed go talk to a professional. They understand more than you think.

mosaik · Post by **mosaik** » 10/1/2004, 9:25 am

it's amazing how much we agree lately.

nelison · Post by **nelison** » 10/1/2004, 9:36 am

It is eh? I've actually got a paper coming up for politics class, I'm gonna send you an email about it, if you don't mind just cause it'll bit quicker than posting things on here.

mosaik · Post by **mosaik** » 10/1/2004, 12:46 pm

sure that sounds cool but i don't know what address i gave this site when i joined so send it to dzizzl3@telus.net

Penguin Josh · Post by **Penguin Josh** » 10/1/2004, 3:02 pm

i used to do it, i don't anymore

nelison · Post by **nelison** » 10/1/2004, 3:22 pm

Personally I don't understand how inflicting pain on yourself can make you feel better. It's seems extremely counter-productive. Wouldn't it be better solve the problem completely than to use a temporary pseudo-solution?

Joey · Post by **Joey** » 10/1/2004, 3:43 pm

i posted a comment to this earlier and then deleted it .. this topic is very hard to explain to someone who doesn't understand it, which is clearly happening here.

i wouldn't say i used to do it .. i don't know if it's a thing of the past yet .. i've done it from the age of 16 to 24 though i think i'm growing out of it now .. i used to see my scars as a beautiful comfort, now i think they're ugly .. i haven't done it for 7 months but we'll see.

for the people who are saying talk to professionals .. try it. you confide your deepest and darkest thoughts and feelings to a complete stranger. and if you get stuck with a professional who doesn't understand self harm, good luck .. let's face it, most so called 'professionals' are idiots .. plus what most people don't understand is, that not everyone WANTS help .. i for one did not .. this was my solution .. you may not understand it, but it worked for me.

i wanted to do it, i enjoyed doing it, it worked for me, i liked the fact that it made me feel something .. pain is better then feeling nothing at all .. eventually you numb yourself to the pain. it's the one thing i had control over ...

Random Name · Post by **Random Name** » 10/1/2004, 3:48 pm

I was at that point a while ago. I thought my life was in a downward spiral, no one understood and all that crap.

Then I got over myself and realized that my emo angst was completly stupid and I was forcing myself to be unhappy for no reason. It was rediculous. I just thought I was all depressed and shit, and it was just me being an idiot.

I really think people need to just get over themselves sometimes. Sorry, the world doesn't revolve around you. Open your friggin eyes.

Of course, I think some people actually need professional help, the other just need to learn how to deal, not with their problems but with themselves.

mosaik · Post by **mosaik** » 10/1/2004, 4:03 pm

the whole thing is just so irrational... i cannot see how it solves anything.

You have a problem.
you go home and cut yourself
the next morning.. your problem still exists.

this strategy seems flawed to me.

Joey · Post by **Joey** » 10/1/2004, 4:09 pm

i can easily go into details about the hows and whys it worked for me
but i'm not .. topics like this don't belong on message boards
and i hate when people bring them up
something so personal shouldn't be the talk of a message board, when easily 90% of the board is completely clueless about such a topic and will just be insensitive and ignorant in their responses.

nelison · Post by **nelison** » 10/1/2004, 4:20 pm

I think professionals do understand. They aren't idiots. They were young at some point as well and understand the trials and tribulations that come with growing up, and even if they don't understand they are still trained to understand and come to a level of understanding. They are also confidential, and when you think about it, you're already causing yourself pain hurting yourself, so what does it matter if you're going through the pain of having to talk to someone about it?

Also, just because someone has never done it does not mean they don't understand, and can't talk about it.

I personally think that its a serious disorder and definitely more than "an attempt to feel emotion" There's more to it than that. I don't believe it's a fad but rather I believe it's a trend. People hear about other's doling it and feel it is alright to do, so they do it, and it makes them feel like they have other's who understand what they're going through. That feeling of shared pain can be soothing I'm sure, but it's oftly perverse.

I'm not trying to start fights so before people get upset, this is merely dicussion.
As I mentionned before I'm a firm believer that with help from professionals the human psyche can be healed. People just need to realize that there is something wrong, when they start enjoying self-inflicted pain.

nelison · Post by **nelison** » 10/1/2004, 4:24 pm

Sorry for the double-post...

Joey wrote:i can easily go into details about the hows and whys it worked for me
but i'm not .. topics like this don't belong on message boards
and i hate when people bring them up
something so personal shouldn't be the talk of a message board, when easily 90% of the board is completely clueless about such a topic and will just be insensitive and ignorant in their responses.

That's part of the problem. People don't want to discuss these things in our society and it becomes swept under the table. Discussion leads to understanding, which leads to prevention/discontinuation through help.

You don't need to go into specifics about what you went through but I'm interested in why people do this, feel it's right, and won't recognize that they have a problem.

mosaik · Post by **mosaik** » 10/1/2004, 4:26 pm

effin a.

i'm sure that for some minds, self harm even soothes other kinds of pain or what have you, but it is not a solution to any problem because it in itself is a problem.

like Jim says, things like this can be fixed but you may not know how to do it on your own and that's why we have people who have studied our minds and understand why we act how we do.

they're there to help.

Joey · Post by **Joey** » 10/1/2004, 4:43 pm

J-Neli wrote:Sorry for the double-post...

Joey wrote:i can easily go into details about the hows and whys it worked for me
but i'm not .. topics like this don't belong on message boards
and i hate when people bring them up
something so personal shouldn't be the talk of a message board, when easily 90% of the board is completely clueless about such a topic and will just be insensitive and ignorant in their responses.

That's part of the problem. People don't want to discuss these things in our society and it becomes swept under the table. Discussion leads to understanding, which leads to prevention/discontinuation through help.

You don't need to go into specifics about what you went through but I'm interested in why people do this, feel it's right, and won't recognize that they have a problem.

this is not something i feel comfortable talking to you about
based on things you've already said and things you've said when this topic has come up previously .. no offense.

i'm more then willing to discuss this issue so no that's not part of the problem .. i've discussed this in great lengths with people before, but not here. i can talk freely and openly about this with people i trust .. a message board is not one of those places. especially with some of the people on this board.

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » 10/1/2004, 4:48 pm

message boards aren't really the place for such serious discussions, unless this thread is closeley watched.

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