Things you might not know about history.

Bandalero · Post by **Bandalero** » 6/27/2004, 1:42 am

1. hellen keller was a radical socialist. (radical being an under statement), yes she did the whole water thing, but that was in her youth, not very many people know about the rest of her 64 years of life.

2. wodrow wilson was a white supremacist, his wife would tell "darky" stories in cabinet meetings. he landed troops in mexico in 1914, haiti in 1915, the dominican republic in 1916, mexico again in 1916, cuba in 1917, and panama in 1918. he sent monitary aid to the "white?" side of the russian civil war, which prolonged the war.

3. the russian casualty count in world war 1 is highly inflated because they fought a civil war at the same time.

4. chris columbus came over to look for gold, not spices, and not because the people of europe became more curious. it only took him a month to get to the "new land". all three of his ships were not puny but of good proportion for his travels. his mistreatment of native hatians resulted in the complete extinction of the Arawak tribe. (genocide)

5. betsy ross did nothing of signifigance, she did not create the first flag.

more to come.

nikki4982 · Post by **nikki4982** » 6/27/2004, 3:19 am

The Betsy Ross thing's never been proven.

She was born in Collingswood! :nod:

Well, where Collingswood now is, anyway... it wasn't named Collingswood yet at the time. So yeah, don't be dissin' Betsy!!! :mad:

Penguin Josh · Post by **Penguin Josh** » 6/27/2004, 9:19 am

<--- feels special, i knew the last 3

Bandalero · Post by **Bandalero** » 6/27/2004, 3:06 pm

Ross came to prominance around 1876, when some of her descendants, seeking to create a tourist attraction in Philadelphia, largely invented the myth of the first flag.

*dissin betsy*

Long Jonny · Post by **Long Jonny** » 6/27/2004, 4:14 pm

queen catherine of russia was rumoured to have died after being crushed by a horse...

as the story goes, she was having sex with the horse. seriously.

Axtech · Post by **Axtech** » 6/27/2004, 4:29 pm

Johnny · Post by **Johnny** » 6/27/2004, 4:59 pm

And she looks like someone from my school!!! :nod:

nikki4982 · Post by **nikki4982** » 6/27/2004, 10:18 pm

Bandalero wrote::lol:

Ross came to prominance around 1876, when some of her descendants, seeking to create a tourist attraction in Philadelphia, largely invented the myth of the first flag.

*dissin betsy*

Like I said, never been proven... and never will be.

Bandalero · Post by **Bandalero** » 6/27/2004, 11:32 pm

the mayflower didn't land in a hostile wilderness, they landed in a native american town, they dug up foods that natives buried in the ground and robbed their graves and took bows, arrows and pottery. they entered houses and took what was inside. no one was inside of course because british and french fishermen exposed natives to illnesses they did not have immunity from. so most of them died and the rest fled, only to expose another tribe farther west to these new illnesses that many europeans though was god's work. pilgrims settles in an indian town, they did not settle in some wilderness like textbooks claim they did. Squanto was a slave sold to slavery in spain, he escaped capture, talked to Thomas Dermer and made his way back to cape cod only to find his village and all of his people extinct. that is why he befriended the pilgrims, other tribes befriended the pilgrims because their numbers dwindled down to almost nothing and they feared other rival tribes that were still strong in number. Europeans did not boldly go where no one dared go, they simply went to the natives.

thanksgiving does not celebrate anything other then ethnocentrism.

I AM ME · Post by **I AM ME** » 6/28/2004, 12:22 am

DO NOT VOTE CONSERVATIVE! wrote:queen catherine of russia was rumoured to have died after being crushed by a horse...

as the story goes, she was having sex with the horse. seriously.

i share a birthday with Cathrine...that's my useless tidbit for the day

Sonya · Post by **Sonya** » 6/28/2004, 3:31 pm

DO NOT VOTE CONSERVATIVE! wrote:queen catherine of russia was rumoured to have died after being crushed by a horse...

...

as the story goes, she was having sex with the horse. seriously.

By the way, not true.

http://www.snopes.com/risque/bestial/catherin.htm

Long Jonny · Post by **Long Jonny** » 6/28/2004, 4:05 pm

nobody knows whether it is true or not. there are hundreds of theories about how she died... ranging from having sex with a horse to drowning in the toilet.

made to heal · Post by **made to heal** » 6/28/2004, 10:31 pm

i love random facts. MORE MORE MORE

Bandalero · Post by **Bandalero** » 6/28/2004, 11:07 pm

the Seminole tribe did not exist before the arrival of europeans, they were a band of remnants of smaller tribes, runaway slaves, and whites who preferred to live in the native society. the word seminole is itself a corruption of the spanish word cimarron which means "runaway slave". vthe seminole wars were not to annex florida it was to get back runaway slaves and to take florida so that slaves had no place to run away to. this was the first actual fight for freedom for slaves by actual run away slaves.

textbooks will only say that there was a seminole war because seminoles refused to move to oklahoma.

Cole · Post by **Cole** » 7/4/2004, 12:29 am

More facts!! But these ones are all American.. :GASP:

There is no evidence that Betsy Ross sewed the first U.S.
flag. The story didn't even flutter forth from her relatives
until 1870.

George Washington did not toss a dollar across the Potomac.
Even if he did toss something, the dollar didn't come into
being until after the U.S. gained independence.

Francis Scott Key did not write our national anthem. He penn-
ed the words then set them to an old English drinking song.
It did not become the national anthem until 1931.

Most of the midnight ride of Paul Revere was accomplished by
other horsemen. It was Samuel Prescott, in fact, who carried
the warning to Concord.

The Declaration of Independence was not approved on July 4,
1776. Only John Hancock, for the assembly, signed it that day.
The other signatures were made on August 2.

George Washington wasn't the first U.S. President. John Han-
son was the president of the Congress of the Confederation
and carried the title of president of the U.S., as did eight
men after him.

"Yankee Doodle" is not an American song. It was a British
ditty designed to harass ragtag colonists during the French
and Indian War.

And they say our history means nothing. :roll:

Odio La Cabra · Post by **Odio La Cabra** » 7/15/2004, 9:39 am

tiarie414 wrote:
DO NOT VOTE CONSERVATIVE! wrote:queen catherine of russia was rumoured to have died after being crushed by a horse...

...

as the story goes, she was having sex with the horse. seriously.

By the way, not true.

http://www.snopes.com/risque/bestial/catherin.htm

...hey is this the same girl who wiped out her entire family?

oh yeah T.J. (thomas jefferson) was suppsoed to have grown weed or something in his backyard...

and christopher columbus was a dumb ass i dont like him

Bandalero · Post by **Bandalero** » 7/16/2004, 12:10 am

Thomas Jefferson was an athiest.

John Brown was not mentally insane, his radical views as to the equality of men of all races was deemed insane and so every other history books proclaims him insane. kansas was a place where free black men could own land. at the same time southerners could move in and have slaves. slaveowners from Missouri crossed the state line and burned down a "freetown" hotel and destroyed 2 printing presses. in response, John brown's people went to Pottawatomie and killed 5 people who were pro-slavery. not many history books mention the attack on kansas but mention john brown's attack, making it seem like his actions were without merit, thus making him insane. not many text books actually quote john brown because he was a damn good speaker.

40,000 canadians fought for the union during the civil war.

the civil war was about federal vs state, but later it became slavery. in maryland, the slave issue was brought to a vote, because it was still legal to own slaves in maryland, yet they fought for the union. the votes casted during the election were mostly for slavery, but the absentee votes overwhelmingly turned the election to freedom, simply because the soilder that were fighting the war were for freedom.

Anti-racism is the greatest gift to the world by the US.

nelison · Post by **nelison** » 7/16/2004, 8:08 am

Bandalero wrote:40,000 canadians fought for the union during the civil war.

They would have been british since Canada was not yet a country.

Anti-racism is the greatest gift to the world by the US.

Narbus · Post by **Narbus** » 7/16/2004, 8:36 am

George Washington wasn't the first U.S. President. John Han-
son was the president of the Congress of the Confederation
and carried the title of president of the U.S., as did eight
men after him.

Sorry, no.
http://www.snopes.com/history/american/hanson.htm

Corey · Post by **Corey** » 7/16/2004, 10:51 am

Thank you Narbus, also...

Cole wrote:There is no evidence that Betsy Ross sewed the first U.S.
flag. The story didn't even flutter forth from her relatives
until 1870.

Perhaps not proof, but here are the affidavits:

http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagaffs.html

Cole wrote:Francis Scott Key did not write our national anthem. He penn-
ed the words then set them to an old English drinking song.
It did not become the national anthem until 1931.

How is "penning" it different from "writing" it? Key was a skilled poet.
It replaced "My Country 'Tis of Thee" as the National Anthem in '31.

Cole wrote:The Declaration of Independence was not approved on July 4,
1776. Only John Hancock, for the assembly, signed it that day.
The other signatures were made on August 2.

Not true.

http://bensguide.gpo.gov/3-5/documents/ ... gners.html

It was "approved" on July 4th by the Second Continental Congress. All 13 colonies "approved" of it on July 9th. And even John Hancock did not sign it until August 2nd.

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Things you might not know about history.

Things you might not know about history.