Do you think cheating is a bad thing, or just a way of getting through the crazy amounts of work teachers give students? Or does it just depend on what we're talking about..
I, just to tell you where I'm coming from, have cheated on tests in many ways, playgerized, copied on assaignments, used online translaters, and basically everything else you could think of. There's really no consience for cheating around here...
cheating in school
i've cheated, god only knows how much but it's been done. most of the stuff is busy work anyway. 
Whenever death may surprise us,
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
I don't cheat. Especially not plagiarism. I think it's just downright wrong to put your name on someone elses work...
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Every now and then I fall out into open air just to feel the wind, rain and everything.
And though the hum and sway gets me down, I'll find the way to peace and openness.
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I dont as much as I used to. It really depends on weither or not I care about the class. I have never cheated for english, because thats the one class that I want to get the most out of as possible.
But for like socials, most of the time I cant be bothered to take the time for projects to read the information, write it out in my own words, then translate it. (I'm in french immersion) I don't directly playgerize the entire thing, I'll take sentances, turn them around, add on my own, take away stuff, that kind of thing. I've never just printed an entire essay off the internet. That would be stupid.
Last year, my friend, who's one of the smartest kids in my class, did an entire project for one of his 'friends'. All she had to do was come in with the title page, and he did the ENTIRE thing. It was pretty bad, espessically since she spelt the name of the country the project was on wrong on the title page...
But for like socials, most of the time I cant be bothered to take the time for projects to read the information, write it out in my own words, then translate it. (I'm in french immersion) I don't directly playgerize the entire thing, I'll take sentances, turn them around, add on my own, take away stuff, that kind of thing. I've never just printed an entire essay off the internet. That would be stupid.
Last year, my friend, who's one of the smartest kids in my class, did an entire project for one of his 'friends'. All she had to do was come in with the title page, and he did the ENTIRE thing. It was pretty bad, espessically since she spelt the name of the country the project was on wrong on the title page...
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I have to say. I sound pretty bad now.
I voted yes because of our grade nine french class. I think it was one of those "you need to be in the class to understand" moments but cheating on tests is fun. Anyways, it didn't matter in the end.
And now that I think about it, I got one of my friends to do my final project in that class too. She actually volunteered which is even more strange. So I guess I cheated on that too. How on earth did I pass that course? I didn't write the final exam, I didn't do the midterm interview thing, I failed every test...the only things I passed were the things I cheated on. And I ended up with a 75% or something. That is the strangest course ever.
....what else have I done? I have blatently lied to get extensions and shit. I'm not in any language courses cause I suck at them (see above example) so I haven't had the chance to use a translator. And there isn't a anything I have pladgerized because you can't really do that. Essays and shit are specific so you have to write it on your own so its about what its supposed to be about. Online essays are so general that they are pretty pointless.
I voted yes because of our grade nine french class. I think it was one of those "you need to be in the class to understand" moments but cheating on tests is fun. Anyways, it didn't matter in the end.
And now that I think about it, I got one of my friends to do my final project in that class too. She actually volunteered which is even more strange. So I guess I cheated on that too. How on earth did I pass that course? I didn't write the final exam, I didn't do the midterm interview thing, I failed every test...the only things I passed were the things I cheated on. And I ended up with a 75% or something. That is the strangest course ever.
....what else have I done? I have blatently lied to get extensions and shit. I'm not in any language courses cause I suck at them (see above example) so I haven't had the chance to use a translator. And there isn't a anything I have pladgerized because you can't really do that. Essays and shit are specific so you have to write it on your own so its about what its supposed to be about. Online essays are so general that they are pretty pointless.
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Goodbye you liar,
Well you sipped from the cup but you don't own up to anything
Then you think you will inspire
Take apart your head
(and I wish I could inspire)
Take apart your demons, then you add it to the list.
Goodbye you liar,
Well you sipped from the cup but you don't own up to anything
Then you think you will inspire
Take apart your head
(and I wish I could inspire)
Take apart your demons, then you add it to the list.
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Axtech wrote:I don't cheat. Especially not plagiarism. I think it's just downright wrong to put your name on someone elses work...
It's near impossible to not commit plagiarism at one point or another. Obviously if you just totally rip off someone that is pretty wrong, but when it comes to opinion paper's who's to say that your opinion is actually yours, and not someone elses that you may have read at one point or another, and simply forgot?
I've used the CM for ideas, especially the politics thread. There are some arguments in there that I've used to help solidify papers. I consider it more of a practice of phreneis than plagiarism.
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"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
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I never cheated, though I think on a few occasions I let my friends copy my work for things like maths. I figured if they didn't want to do the work themselves it would only come back on them in exams and stuff.
Open your eyes to nights and days, you close them up and float away
and somehow inbetween you've got to master lying to yourself
you back the cause, get out of school, you get a job, the job gets you
and somehow every day you end up serving somebody else
now if that ain't panic that you're feeling, then you damn well better start
you can drive it into that head of yours with the hammer in your heart.
And it's alriiiiiiiight now, take the world and make it yours again.
and somehow inbetween you've got to master lying to yourself
you back the cause, get out of school, you get a job, the job gets you
and somehow every day you end up serving somebody else
now if that ain't panic that you're feeling, then you damn well better start
you can drive it into that head of yours with the hammer in your heart.
And it's alriiiiiiiight now, take the world and make it yours again.
On tests, I don't go all hardcore and bring in cheatsheets and stuff, but if i just don't remember, I'll ask someone that sits beside me.
I'm probably in a different situatiation then the rest of you because my accedemic classes are frenchie, so they're with the same kids ive been going to school with since kindergarten. We all have a network of copying on tests. No one in the class cares about cheating, so we all help each other. I just dont care for things like science, because it doesnt matter at ALL. For science, my teacher leaves the class during tests, so I just get most of the answers from someone else. Why bother studying when you dont have to?
And yeah, I've used the CM too, but mostly to get ideas that are against mine. heh, I even used like a sentance of Sean's once to prove a point, but that was for a speech.
I'm probably in a different situatiation then the rest of you because my accedemic classes are frenchie, so they're with the same kids ive been going to school with since kindergarten. We all have a network of copying on tests. No one in the class cares about cheating, so we all help each other. I just dont care for things like science, because it doesnt matter at ALL. For science, my teacher leaves the class during tests, so I just get most of the answers from someone else. Why bother studying when you dont have to?
And yeah, I've used the CM too, but mostly to get ideas that are against mine. heh, I even used like a sentance of Sean's once to prove a point, but that was for a speech.
J-Neli wrote:Axtech wrote:I don't cheat. Especially not plagiarism. I think it's just downright wrong to put your name on someone elses work...
It's near impossible to not commit plagiarism at one point or another. Obviously if you just totally rip off someone that is pretty wrong, but when it comes to opinion paper's who's to say that your opinion is actually yours, and not someone elses that you may have read at one point or another, and simply forgot?
I've used the CM for ideas, especially the politics thread. There are some arguments in there that I've used to help solidify papers. I consider it more of a practice of phreneis than plagiarism.
The definition of plagiarism is being skewed these days. Teachers and professors seem to think that if an idea isn't 100% originial, it's plagiarised. However, plagiarism is defined as taking someone elses work and calling it your own. So, unless you directly copy opinions from articles (or the CM!), it's not plagiarism. If you happen to have a similar idea from someone, or your idea is supported by something you've heard in the past, it's not plagiarism.
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Every now and then I fall out into open air just to feel the wind, rain and everything.
And though the hum and sway gets me down, I'll find the way to peace and openness.
"Robbo" - © Alex (happeningfish)...^5 ^5 v v
Every now and then I fall out into open air just to feel the wind, rain and everything.
And though the hum and sway gets me down, I'll find the way to peace and openness.
"Robbo" - © Alex (happeningfish)...^5 ^5 v v
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thirdhour wrote: I don't directly playgerize the entire thing, I'll take sentances, turn them around, add on my own, take away stuff, that kind of thing. I've never just printed an entire essay off the internet. That would be stupid.
I voted "yes", because I do exactly what Yannic said, and I do ask people beside me if I don't know, during the actual test. I also get the information of what's on tests from people who have already taken it. Personally, I don't see why not!
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sometimes i will write stuff on my hand before a test. like the first letter of every word.
i personally hate tests. they are pointless. i forget what i studied 2 weeks later, and the overall point of them is to see how much a person can memorize in a night.
i personally hate tests. they are pointless. i forget what i studied 2 weeks later, and the overall point of them is to see how much a person can memorize in a night.
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I voted "yes", because I do exactly what Yannic said, and I do ask people beside me if I don't know, during the actual test. I also get the information of what's on tests from people who have already taken it. Personally, I don't see why not!
yaaaa i do that too.
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Guy: Her locker's down the hall, I've counted 17 from mine.
Girl: Does he see me? Does he even know that I'm close by?
Guy: We're in the hallway, always at half past nine.
Girl: Would he ever get to know me? Would he take the time?
[glow=brown]...Back in school they never taught us what we needed to know like how to deal with despair or someone breaking your heart...[/glow]
Guy: Her locker's down the hall, I've counted 17 from mine.
Girl: Does he see me? Does he even know that I'm close by?
Guy: We're in the hallway, always at half past nine.
Girl: Would he ever get to know me? Would he take the time?
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