http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1804&ncid=1804&e=3&u=/washpost/20031208/tc_washpost/a43991_2003dec7
it's amazing that the goal was to prevent future events such as September 11th from happening again, yet the US govt still hasn't made things better in their own country, yet they went and ravaged someone elses.
Again, good ol' USA, you can always count on them to lead by example.
Airport "security"
Airport "security"
I can't wait until the day schools are over-funded and the military is forced to hold bake sales to buy planes.
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Did you read the article or did you just see the headline and your USA hatred overwelmed you? Seems as though there are legitimate shortcommings in the technology. I'm sure if these huge machines were installed you'd be the first one to complain that "it takes to long to get through security. Damn USA is too paranoid and its an inconvience to me."
well for the amount of money they put into an unsuccessful war, you'd think they would have spent a little more on developing technology that can help prevent the event which started it all. The fact that anyone can still get on a plane and cause havoc is pretty pathetic when you consider the circumstances.
I can't wait until the day schools are over-funded and the military is forced to hold bake sales to buy planes.
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
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Unsuccessful because 1. they didn't get the man that they were after. and 2. the world's opinion of the USA has deminished greatly since the start of the war. In a matter of 2 years they went from the most well liked country in the world right after 9/11 to be probably the most hated.
Simply because you claim victory doesn't mean it's a success.
My point was that they went and bombed the hell out of two countries before they even had things straight in their own country. That's somewhat hypocritical isn't it? To go and change another country when you're not leading by example?
Simply because you claim victory doesn't mean it's a success.
My point was that they went and bombed the hell out of two countries before they even had things straight in their own country. That's somewhat hypocritical isn't it? To go and change another country when you're not leading by example?
I can't wait until the day schools are over-funded and the military is forced to hold bake sales to buy planes.
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
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J-Neli wrote:Unsuccessful because 1. they didn't get the man that they were after. and 2. the world's opinion of the USA has deminished greatly since the start of the war. In a matter of 2 years they went from the most well liked country in the world right after 9/11 to be probably the most hated.
Simply because you claim victory doesn't mean it's a success.
My point was that they went and bombed the hell out of two countries before they even had things straight in their own country. That's somewhat hypocritical isn't it? To go and change another country when you're not leading by example?
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Just because Bush says something is a success, doesn't make it so.
The US has not found any weapons of mass destruction, they haven't found Saddam Hussain (nor Bin laden) and there still is no democratic government (you might even argue that the US doesn't even have that, but that's something else). Those were the main reasons they went to Iraq. That the war has also had some positive results, doesn't make it succesful at all.
The US has not found any weapons of mass destruction, they haven't found Saddam Hussain (nor Bin laden) and there still is no democratic government (you might even argue that the US doesn't even have that, but that's something else). Those were the main reasons they went to Iraq. That the war has also had some positive results, doesn't make it succesful at all.
it hasn't been successful so far then
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"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
Corey wrote:What are you talking about? Seriously, you need someone to proof read before you post. Just because a google prank says something is a failure, doesn't make it so.
what the hell are you talking about? We've been challenging the reasons for this war since the start... not just since some stupid google search.
I apoligize for typing it up rather quickly, but I was running short on time, but I'm sure such intellects as we have here could easily find my point, as it was pretty obvious.
I can't wait until the day schools are over-funded and the military is forced to hold bake sales to buy planes.
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
Eelco wrote:Just because Bush says something is a success, doesn't make it so.
The US has not found any weapons of mass destruction, they haven't found Saddam Hussain (nor Bin laden) and there still is no democratic government (you might even argue that the US doesn't even have that, but that's something else). Those were the main reasons they went to Iraq. That the war has also had some positive results, doesn't make it succesful at all.
Perhaps... but we have his country. As for democracy... you expect that to happen overnight?
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"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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Venom wrote:ITS NOT OVER YET!!!! YOU CAN'T CALL IT A SUCCESS OR FAILURE!!!
How long should we go on letting people die before we call it a failure and end it?
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And though the hum and sway gets me down, I'll find the way to peace and openness.
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