i can't believe i voted for this dumbass, hell, what option did i have.....loud dumbass, or quiet dumbass? jeez!
end rant right about.....now.
discuss godammit!
Gore.
Gore.
what's up with this guy? he runs for office and doesn't talk up his campaign. he's just a boring, non-essential idiot that was up for election. didn't say much, didn't get into detail about anything, and didn't rile up any interest with voters. he lost his vote in his own ome state, and lost the whole damn election (even if it was stolen, this jackass let it happen without saying a damn thing), and now, after all this was declared....he talks. Gore Accuses Bush of 'Big Brother' Policy....Gore: Bush Has Failed to Make U.S. Safer, and a whole slew of other comments about bush after the fact. what's it all about? what's the point? he never said a damn word, and now he won't shut up, like he would do any better in the current situation. my gad, what an idiot, it's like he grew a beard and a set of balls along with it.
i can't believe i voted for this dumbass, hell, what option did i have.....loud dumbass, or quiet dumbass? jeez!
end rant right about.....now.
discuss godammit!
i can't believe i voted for this dumbass, hell, what option did i have.....loud dumbass, or quiet dumbass? jeez!
end rant right about.....now.
discuss godammit!
Whenever death may surprise us,
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
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Sufjan Stevens
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Yes, because obviously, the rational, quiet man is sooooo much dumber than the man that makes stuff up to kill thousands of people. Just shut up Reno.
I faced death. I went in with my arms swinging. But I heard my own breath and had to face that I'm still living. I'm still flesh. I hold on to awful feelings. I'm not dead... My chest still draws breath. I hold it. I'm buoyant. There's no end.
and the quiet rational man, should have been rational enough to blow out the loud mouth fake assed texan in the elections. he should have saved us all from the mad man behind the wheel, he should have stepped up and saved the lives of soilders that die today and those who have died in the past. yes, he's our savior yet when it came to action, he did nothing but mumble about a locked box, and when his time of action is behind him, he talks with so much bravado that it's sickening. What good does it do us now? and what's our hero doing about it? same thing he's always done...jack!
That's some hero we have here.
That's some hero we have here.
Whenever death may surprise us,
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
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I cringe to even think what a Gore presidency would have been like. The US would be known as the country who sits back and lets you attack them. Actually I bet Gore would have done almost the exact same thing as Bush. We would still be in a War on Terror, we would have gone to Afghanistan, but the argument could be made that we would not have gone into Iraq without the UN. Gore is just playing devils advocate, because that is what the Democratic party is running on in 2004. They are just hoping that Iraq turns out badly. Its rather sadistic when you think about it. Every bombing that happens in Iraq makes the democrats smile. How disgusting is that?
how about the guy that walks around smiling everyday, knowinghow many bombs he drops and how many innocents he's killed? But i guess there is no innocents in war is there?
i'm not exactly a gore fan, but the man won the election and he got screwed out of it. History will not look kindly on America arund our generation. Well at least histroy in international text books
i'm not exactly a gore fan, but the man won the election and he got screwed out of it. History will not look kindly on America arund our generation. Well at least histroy in international text books
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
and then there's this claim that he won the election. Obviously he didn't.
Looking back at a time, when a state election that kick started johnson's political career, our generation thinks, well hell, if it was so obvious, why didn't they do something about it? Why did the opponet just admit defeat? The people who lived through it tells our generation, that there was a political machine in charge, and you never went against the machine. If you did you were ruined. That's what the locals say, that's what the opponet said, and that's what everyone in the state had to do. bite the bullet and take it as truth. Bush was not a political force that made people vote for him, there's no proof of that. His brother wasn't gonna shut you down financially, or run you out of the state. so i want to know where exactly does this claim take root?
when the next generation ask me, if this election was stolen, like many claim it was, why no one did anything about it, i'm just gonna say, there's no proof that a George Phrarr type messed up the election, and that this man lost it outright. and if there is grounds for a dispute, he should have fought it and made the claim. he did not.
Looking back at a time, when a state election that kick started johnson's political career, our generation thinks, well hell, if it was so obvious, why didn't they do something about it? Why did the opponet just admit defeat? The people who lived through it tells our generation, that there was a political machine in charge, and you never went against the machine. If you did you were ruined. That's what the locals say, that's what the opponet said, and that's what everyone in the state had to do. bite the bullet and take it as truth. Bush was not a political force that made people vote for him, there's no proof of that. His brother wasn't gonna shut you down financially, or run you out of the state. so i want to know where exactly does this claim take root?
when the next generation ask me, if this election was stolen, like many claim it was, why no one did anything about it, i'm just gonna say, there's no proof that a George Phrarr type messed up the election, and that this man lost it outright. and if there is grounds for a dispute, he should have fought it and made the claim. he did not.
Whenever death may surprise us,
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
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Sufjan Stevens
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Obviously winning the popular vote means losing outright. The electoral college is useless. We don't have to worry about ballot stuffing and under-respresentation of smaller states anymore. The people wanted Gore, and the votes proved it. The outdated system of bullshit worked out for Bush, and now we're all paying for it.
I faced death. I went in with my arms swinging. But I heard my own breath and had to face that I'm still living. I'm still flesh. I hold on to awful feelings. I'm not dead... My chest still draws breath. I hold it. I'm buoyant. There's no end.
Its has happened several times in election history. and it's only now that the public feel robbed.
Whenever death may surprise us,
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
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Sufjan Stevens
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- Joined: 3/17/2002, 12:25 pm
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Several? What crack do you smoke? It happened once with Grover Cleveland. Once. That's not several times. Look into it, it was bullshit then and it's bullshit now.
I faced death. I went in with my arms swinging. But I heard my own breath and had to face that I'm still living. I'm still flesh. I hold on to awful feelings. I'm not dead... My chest still draws breath. I hold it. I'm buoyant. There's no end.
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Sufjan Stevens
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Oh, shit, my bad. Back then, however, it was needed. There were only a handful of places with people available to vote. Today, we don't need it. Each person should have their vote count the same. Let's say 2million people decided to actually vote in Michigan. Each person's votes should count for the same amount as each person in Rhode Island and Texas. My vote should count as my vote, not a piece to give one man 30 points in the end. That's that.
I faced death. I went in with my arms swinging. But I heard my own breath and had to face that I'm still living. I'm still flesh. I hold on to awful feelings. I'm not dead... My chest still draws breath. I hold it. I'm buoyant. There's no end.
I can't say I really disagree with you Alan. However, complaining about the law isn't going to change it. Action has to be taken in order to do something about it. If a candidate wins by Electoral vote before it is changed, then that is it. No more arguing, that is the system and you have no grounds to fight it. Fight the system, not the result.
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i'd be happier with the populus vote counting too. 
Whenever death may surprise us,
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown