Kids, Advice: If you're in Canada, don't fart in class.
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rattling the window? that kid should seek help, although i must say from the standpoint of a male that would make me quite proud if done in the company of other males
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"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
Axtech wrote:No, teachers are not allowed to hit kids in Canada. That's why this story would be big news.
What the fuck are you talking about?
They can. Thanks for just spouting out your instinctive beliefs without doing some research first.
Feel free to ask some qualified teachers like I did. Never does the school act clearly state that you can beat the kid into submission, but it does state (in most public school districts) that discipline can be given out in a physical manner. Just because it isn't "right" by your definition and is not done in High Schools doesnt mean it never happens and is not allowed.
The "hitting" punishment is usually given out in Elementary schools, then to junior high it is almost unheard of. In High school it is non-existant.
[glow=red]Typically you only need one fault.[/glow]
I'm telling ya, my fiance heard in on the newsbreak on our local radio station.
teelow wrote:Axtech wrote:No, teachers are not allowed to hit kids in Canada. That's why this story would be big news.
What the fuck are you talking about?
They can. Thanks for just spouting out your instinctive beliefs without doing some research first.
Feel free to ask some qualified teachers like I did. Never does the school act clearly state that you can beat the kid into submission, but it does state (in most public school districts) that discipline can be given out in a physical manner. Just because it isn't "right" by your definition and is not done in High Schools doesnt mean it never happens and is not allowed.
The "hitting" punishment is usually given out in Elementary schools, then to junior high it is almost unheard of. In High school it is non-existant.
That's exactly what I thought. I remembered some teachers saying that they can hit students, but it's somewhat frowned upon by most school boards
I can't wait until the day schools are over-funded and the military is forced to hold bake sales to buy planes.
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how is it possible that could be legal? if you hit someone, thats assault. why does it matter if you're a teacher?
of course, in recent weeks, i HAVE heard many stories from my classmates about their grade 3/4 etc teachers hitting them....
and one of my dad's closest friends is a grade 7 teacher, and he does occasionally push kids up against lockers, but i'm not sure if that's to punish them or just joking around, so i guess i dont really know...
of course, in recent weeks, i HAVE heard many stories from my classmates about their grade 3/4 etc teachers hitting them....
and one of my dad's closest friends is a grade 7 teacher, and he does occasionally push kids up against lockers, but i'm not sure if that's to punish them or just joking around, so i guess i dont really know...
Actually and I know this for sure because my brother who just graduated in JUNE from high school was in a situation with teachers using violence.
At least in Saskatchewan it is completely against the law to attack or hit a student for any reason other than self defence or to restrain him. And as for self defence, you can't like hit the kid 3 times or keep on hitting him, the teacher can protect themselves at the student's own risk of getting injured by the teacher.
In Saskatchewan they aren't even supposed to pat a student on the shoulder or back to say "Good Job!" anymore. If the student wanted to file a complaint, that teacher could easily lose his job for it, if the superintendent takes it to the school board. That's only for a FRIENDLY PAT ON THE BACK!!!
I know I say a lot of goofy shit on the board, but I'm not making this up, it really happened to my brother this year... The teacher only shoved my brother and was yelling in his face. The teacher actually double crossed my brother on a deal they had about a project. All my brother did was go to the teacher's classroom to work on a project after school with some students he was supposed to be helping and the teacher was angry at him for not showing up the day before (monday) to help. Well, my bro was sick and even called the school to say he wouldn't be in and left a message with the receptionist to let the teacher know he wouldn't be there.
Aaaaanyway, the next day when this happened my brother didn't push the teacher back or anything, (the teacher was yelling at him to get out of his classroom and shoved my brother backwards, he didn't fall though) and my brother just said "I've lost all respect for you and walked out of his class.
My brother was relying on this project to bring him a good passing grade, and was very upset about the situation because that teacher had always been a pretty good person. He was even our Offensive and Defensive Line coach in football for the 2 final years I was there and then he was head coach the next 2 years.
So my bro filed a complaint with the principal and they had a meeting with the teacher and the Resource officer. (school police officer). They tried to weasel their way out of it and the officer said my brother was tresspassing for entering the teacher's room etc... and that my bro couldn't do anything. Well, my mom and bro who went to the meeting weren't happy, they went above the vice principal's head to the Superintendant who, for my first 3 years of high school and 1 year of my bro's was principal of our school before he got promoted. So he knew us both very well.
Rambling again (sorry) He looked into it with the police station and this is how I found out that teacher's aren't allowed to use physical contact anymore... Oh yeah and my bro wasn't trespassing, the resource officer was feeding them Bullshit. So, in the end my bro won, got his grade and passed his class. The teacher however was transfered and had charges laid against him that will only affect his record as a teacher. However if he ever does something like that again... He won't be able to teach in Canada anymore!
At least in Saskatchewan it is completely against the law to attack or hit a student for any reason other than self defence or to restrain him. And as for self defence, you can't like hit the kid 3 times or keep on hitting him, the teacher can protect themselves at the student's own risk of getting injured by the teacher.
In Saskatchewan they aren't even supposed to pat a student on the shoulder or back to say "Good Job!" anymore. If the student wanted to file a complaint, that teacher could easily lose his job for it, if the superintendent takes it to the school board. That's only for a FRIENDLY PAT ON THE BACK!!!
I know I say a lot of goofy shit on the board, but I'm not making this up, it really happened to my brother this year... The teacher only shoved my brother and was yelling in his face. The teacher actually double crossed my brother on a deal they had about a project. All my brother did was go to the teacher's classroom to work on a project after school with some students he was supposed to be helping and the teacher was angry at him for not showing up the day before (monday) to help. Well, my bro was sick and even called the school to say he wouldn't be in and left a message with the receptionist to let the teacher know he wouldn't be there.
Aaaaanyway, the next day when this happened my brother didn't push the teacher back or anything, (the teacher was yelling at him to get out of his classroom and shoved my brother backwards, he didn't fall though) and my brother just said "I've lost all respect for you and walked out of his class.
My brother was relying on this project to bring him a good passing grade, and was very upset about the situation because that teacher had always been a pretty good person. He was even our Offensive and Defensive Line coach in football for the 2 final years I was there and then he was head coach the next 2 years.
So my bro filed a complaint with the principal and they had a meeting with the teacher and the Resource officer. (school police officer). They tried to weasel their way out of it and the officer said my brother was tresspassing for entering the teacher's room etc... and that my bro couldn't do anything. Well, my mom and bro who went to the meeting weren't happy, they went above the vice principal's head to the Superintendant who, for my first 3 years of high school and 1 year of my bro's was principal of our school before he got promoted. So he knew us both very well.
Rambling again (sorry) He looked into it with the police station and this is how I found out that teacher's aren't allowed to use physical contact anymore... Oh yeah and my bro wasn't trespassing, the resource officer was feeding them Bullshit. So, in the end my bro won, got his grade and passed his class. The teacher however was transfered and had charges laid against him that will only affect his record as a teacher. However if he ever does something like that again... He won't be able to teach in Canada anymore!
thirdhour wrote:Could someone please explain the law?
Is there some loophole in the law that lets teachers defend themselves? And does it only apply to teachers?
If you take away "loophole (in the)" and trade "teachers" for "everyone" you have a part of our rights as being an individual in Canada/America.
Who cares who you are? You dont need to search the law for some loophole to aid you when you're being charged for knocking someone unconcious after they tried to shoot you.
This, Rule, in School Act's simply says that Teachers have the authority to maintain discipline with force if neccessary. But like J-Neli said it is frowned upon.
[glow=red]Typically you only need one fault.[/glow]
It also has to do with how children have been disciplined throughout history. It was quite normal to hit a kid if he was being disruptful or disrespectful.
Parents are rarely taken to court over punishing their children by smacking them. It's considered an appropriate form of punishment and I'm sure most of the people on this board, were at one point smacked on their butt, or hand, etc, for doing something they weren't supposed to. The law just means that teachers are considered caregivers, and have the right to correct a child when they're bad. It's been commonplace throughout history.
I don't think children should be hit in schools, but its easy to understand where this law came from.
Parents are rarely taken to court over punishing their children by smacking them. It's considered an appropriate form of punishment and I'm sure most of the people on this board, were at one point smacked on their butt, or hand, etc, for doing something they weren't supposed to. The law just means that teachers are considered caregivers, and have the right to correct a child when they're bad. It's been commonplace throughout history.
I don't think children should be hit in schools, but its easy to understand where this law came from.
I can't wait until the day schools are over-funded and the military is forced to hold bake sales to buy planes.
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"