A nice chart

[mosaik]

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/0 ... _lies.html

read, discuss, challenge, justify, whatever.

[Johnny]

Goodness.

So many needless deaths


Bush is a wanker

[Dabekk]

wanker is definatel the word.

[Bandalero]

i'll take a crack.

Not True
Zero Chemical Weapons Found
Not a drop of any chemical weapons has been found anywhere in Iraq

as of today this statement is true, however, audits don't lie. there are chemicals unnaccounted for. where are they? we don't know cause intel sucks

Not True
Zero Munitions Found
Not a single chemical weapon’s munition has been found anywhere in Iraq

this statement is true also, however, audits don't lie. there are unaccounted rounds where are they? we don't know cause intel sucks

Not True
Zero Aerial Vehicles Found
Not a single aerial vehicle capable of dispersing chemical or biological weapons, has been found anywhere in Iraq

this statement is true, however in the past there was a "super gun" bolted down on the side of a mountain that could put munitions into orbit. of course that was destroyed along time ago. of course intel had no idea such a super gun existed.

Not True
Zero Al Qaeda Connection
To date, not a shred of evidence connecting Hussein with Al Qaida or any other known terrorist organizations have been revealed.
(besides certain Palestinian groups who represent no direct threat to the US)

this statement is kind of true. there are terrorist camps in Iraq, maybe not Al Qaeda's but probably some other terror organization. then again, there's an old military traning camp in alabama that will train you in military style combat that is privately owned. anyone can go to this place and be trained...anyone.

Not True
The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) as well as dozens of leading scientists declared said tubes unsuitable for nuclear weapons production -- months before the war.

this statemnet is true.....what? it is! it's not the only cause for war with Iraq.

Not True
Two months of inspections at these former Iraqi nuclear sites found zero evidence of prohibited nuclear activities there
IAEA report to UN Security Council – 1/27/2003

this statement is true, however in the past Israel has destroyed plants there were alot closer to full development of nuclear arms then US intel said they were. Intel didn't know of this super gun until they found it. intel doesn't know shit sometimes huh?

Not True
The documents implied were known at the time by Bush to be forged and not credible.

this statement is kind of true. the documents proved to be false, however did bush know they were? i don't know i'm not bush. (thank god) intel won't even tell you, they got a stick up their asses.

Not True
“The IAEA had found no evidence or plausible indication of the revival of a nuclear weapons program in Iraq."
IAEA report to UN Security Council – 3/7/2003

a true statement....however this same council only had 4 months to work....to find these weapons in a place the size of montana. intel...heh good luck.

Not True
UN inspectors went into Iraq to search for possible weapons violations from December 2002 into March 2003

true, this was after sadamn kicked them out of the country. 4 months, inspectors cound't find anything.....intel.....yeah exactly.

[Narbus]

So, everything you just said claims our intel sucks.

It was our intel that we based our going to war upon.

You just said that we shouldn't have gone to war.

[I AM ME]

ooooooooo good one

[Corey]

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/middle_e ... n_wmd.html

http://www.nci.org/i/ib113095.htm

http://usinfo.state.gov/regional/nea/disarm/nuclear.htm

[Bandalero]

So, everything you just said claims our intel sucks.
It was our intel that we based our going to war upon.
You just said that we shouldn't have gone to war.

yeah i've come to the conclusion that intel isn't very realiable. i always thought intel was some spy in enemy territory with his hands on actual proof. not just pictures, video, or hear-say. i want this to happen:

General: so is there a nuke in Iraq?
Intel: yeah....
General: are you sure?
Intel: yeah.....
General: i want you to go and put your hand on the nuke, make sure it's there...
Intel:k...hold on. *goes away for a while then comes back* ok, i just did.
General: ok.....now keep your eye on it, you go where ever it goes.

Audits still don't lie.

[Dabekk]

audits don't lie, but there are a lot of other places this stuff could have wound up other than Iraq, and since UN inspectors found absolutely nothing it would be a fair assumtion that most if not all of this stuff did wind up somewhere else.

[Bandalero]

that's very true. there's probably a paper trail (classified of course) that says this all was bought/sent to Iraq. then you only find a percentage of what was bought/sent to Iraq. OK, where's the rest? if it was sent somewhere else by the Iraqi Government, where's the paper work that details where it's at? and if no paper work is found, then it could still be in Iraq or the documents are in a trash heap somewhere. now that's hard to figure out, and i have reason to believe that that will never be figured out.