Why does this come as a suprise?

[mosaik]

reno, non-action is a buzzword. the term has no meaning, it has no logical value, it is nothing. there is no such thing as non-action. there is no way to hold a person accountable for "non-action".

sandman, absolutely i would feel that way. except that there are no circumstances that are out of my control, there will always be somebody for me to turn to and even if there were circumstances and there was nobody that would still not justify the use of violence in order to procure some assitance.

[Bandalero]

locial value, the same logic that tells you fuck em all, it's all about me and no one else.

[starvingeyes]

well. how is that illogical? do you discount the truth of the invisble hand?

[Sufjan Stevens]

I would find it to be more logical to look out for yourself and not have to depend on others to protect you. I figured everyone should feel the same. I mean, everyone has to have the me first attitude in life, at least in certain aspects.

Here's my look on what is logical and what is not. 51% of a nation can determine how your future is played out for the next four years, or in the last election, 49%. Now, if you are in the minority, why should you have to cope with what a redneck jackass says? I mean, you clearly did not want him in office. But in our logical government, only part of the population gets what they want. So all that jargain of "for the people" is bullshit, because not all the people get what they want.

So tell me, what seems more logical, the government that supposedly looks out for you, even if you don't want them to dictate how you live the next four years, or your own mind, the only thing that should be capable of playing into how you choose to live your life?

[Bandalero]

easy there, if you do recall, my state district just lost atleast 15 million dollars that George Bush didn't take. there's alot more to government then some stuttering jack ass up in washington.

[Sufjan Stevens]

I know, I was just using that as an example. Even if Jesus ran all of government, I would still prefer to look out for myself and not rely on others to play such a huge role on how I live my life.

[Bandalero]

yeah, you have to look out for yourself in many a scenario, but what about financial aid? or FDA approval of drugs? or Inspection of beef to see if it's good to eat? not all of us got cows you know. but to you suckas that don't SUCKA!!!

[Sufjan Stevens]

I don't receive financial aid. I pay for my education through working and money I have saved since I was a little child. The only medicine I take is Benadryl to sleep, and I also live without insurance. Well, if I said I raised cattle in my backyard, I'd be a fucking liar, so you got me there.

[Bandalero]

cool. but yeah man, others need some kind of program now and then, i don't mind paying a few cents on the dollar to help my fellow man.

[Sufjan Stevens]

And I will too, mainly because I don't want to waste away in jail or anything, but, I'd prefer to look out for myself.

[Bandalero]

understandable.

[Bandalero]

as you might know from my first post in this topic, i was pretty pissed off at the clowns that ran away from their duties as representatives from my state. more specifically my representative.

well, these democrat clowns are at it again, this time 11 senators decided to go to New Mexico to break the quorm(sp). you all know what i think about these democrats AND republicans. all of them, atleast here in this state.....nothing but clowns and monkeys. the democrat clowns are putting on a show, and the republican monkeys are flinging poo at them.

believe it or not, contrary to the first post, i support these bunch of clowns. and i'll get down to the specifics. the representatives that refused the quoram (fuck i know there's an o in it....right?) during regular session, knew damn well that if they left, a special session would come soon after. sure enough they left anyway. special session is a costly thing to do. they could hav easily stayed their ground, and let the senators do what they were going to do. see now were in special session, and the senators voted against it, refusing the 2/3 majority. horay for democracy! a fine day indeed for us small towns folk.

and now, the monkeys. as soon as this bill is killed, they call a second special session. as in another 30 days of bullshit. but these godamn monkeys had to take it to another godamn level. the mero mero of this godamned circus wants to take away the 2/3rd's rule in this second special session. and when this was announced the democratic senators ran, because what kind of non-sense is this?

i was watching bill maher, and he paraded these clowns on his show. the woman panelist clearly doesn't know the situation. (and neither does baldwin) they're blinded by their own party afiliation and it's so godamn ridiculous. i especially thought it was funny that the monkey panelist thought the clowns were bitter about not having their way anymore. did any of you see her? it looked like the lady was pissed that the clowns have been in charge in Texas since reconstruction. it was her that looked bitter, but godammit i would be bitter too about having rules change right from under me. these people need to get a clue, you might have more people in office, but you still don't have the 2/3rd's majority to get things done. leave it at that. try again in 2005.

if republicans want to change a rule, that's fine, but the rule change must not take in effect until the next regular session, and it should be passed with a 2/3rd's majority. kind of like a presidential raise. it should not affect anyone/anything in the current session.

i say this carnival is basically complete. there's monkeys, there's clowns, all we need now is the trapeze couple and the human canonball the lady is fucking.