feminism sucks; proof within.

Serious discussion area.
You realize that sometimes you're not okay, you level off, you level off, you level off...
Post Reply
User avatar
starvingeyes
Posts: 2009
Joined: 5/8/2002, 3:44 pm
Location: california's not very far

feminism sucks; proof within.

Post by starvingeyes »

http://mensnewsdaily.com/archive/g/glas ... 071503.htm

Men Behaving Badly - Why?

July 15, 2003


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
by Dr. Karl Glasson, Ph.D.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Many males in western societies seem to be behaving very badly these days.

They seem to be becoming more involved with crime. They seem to be growing more dishonest. They seem to be increasingly hostile and aggressive toward others. They seem less committed to their partners and to their families. They are clearly doing less well in terms of their education. And they seem to be more pre-occupied with their own narrow self-interests than they used to be.

Why is this so?

What can possibly account for this apparent deterioration in the behaviours of western men?

Have their genes suddenly taken a dive for the worse?

Or are they simply responding to the way in which western societies treat them these days?

In my view, the major cause of what seems to be a significant deterioration in the behaviours of men is, quite simply, feminism.

Indeed, the evidence that damns feminism is overwhelming.

The evidence shows that feminism is not only the primary cultural cause of the current-day bad behaviours of men, it is also the primary cultural cause of very many other current-day serious societal problems.

Before demonstrating to readers how it is that feminism is largely responsible for the current bad behaviours of men, it is important to understand the two following points.

1. Feminism - together with political correctness - has been the most influential ideology in western societies for the past three decades. There are no other ideologies that even come to it in terms of the extent to which it has penetrated western societies.

Feminism has penetrated very deeply western governments, western laws, western social services, western universities, western colleges, western schools, western media, western families, western bedrooms and western minds.

And it has done so for three decades - a decade longer than even Hitler had - with far fewer resources - in which to stir up his mass hatred toward the Jews.

Feminism has been hugely influential.

And one of its main successes has been the wholesale demonisation of males.

2. Political correctness has been aggressively supported and strongly buttressed by feminists. Indeed, feminists have done their level best to promote any activity which undermines men - particularly white heterosexual ones.

And political correctness has been a very useful weapon for them in this respect.

But the point here is this.

Every ill that can be blamed on political correctness, can also be blamed on those who endorse and underpin it. And no group has done more to foist political correctness on to western societies than the feminists.

For three decades, the feminists and the politically correct have engaged in a wholesale onslaught against white heterosexual men.

White men have been persistently accused of being racist by highly vocal racial activists and racial minorities, and their history and their forefathers have been thoroughly undermined and blackened - to the extent that many racial activists are now demanding reparations for past slavery.

Heterosexual men have been continually portrayed as being violent, abusive, oppressors of women by mainstream feminists and a whole plethora of abuse professionals who have a vested interest in portraying men in this way.

Heterosexual men have also been represented by the beautifully orchestrated gay lobby as being bigoted and fearful of their own sexuality.

All men have been assaulted almost ceaselessly by various women's groups, children's groups, social service workers, therapists and analysts who have sought to indoctrinate the population with the view that men are abusers of children.

The ubiquitous feminist-fearing mainstream media have consistently sought to demonise and humiliate the entire male gender - a typical example of which can be seen in the recent vindictive column by Maureen Dowd in the New York Times entitled Incredible Shrinking Y.

And the all-powerful western governments together with the legal profession have almost disempowered men completely when it comes to their families, their relationships and their homes, on the grounds that women and children are often better off without them. (The Federal Bureau of Marriage? by Professor Stephen Baskerville gives a good insight into how this is being achieved.)

In view of all this, is it surprising to find that men are behaving badly?

If A keeps telling B that he considers him to be worthless, and continues to accuse him of things that he has not done, and persistently undermines him in relation to his family and to his children, and continually seeks to portray him as an abuser and an oppressor, who should be surprised if B finally turns his back on A?

Indeed, who should be surprised if B decides to give A a bloody nose?

Well. This is the kind of thing that has been going on in western societies for a long time now thanks to the wholesale demonisation of males by the feminists.

And many millions of men are - and have been - responding to this by turning their backs on their own societies.

Indeed, they are not only increasingly refusing to support their own societies, many are, in fact, responding by giving them a bloody nose! - crime, violence etc.

Well. Let us look at some of the reasons why western men might have become this way as a result of feminism (and, indeed, as a result of political correctness).

1. The constant feminist-inspired demonisation and denigration of men throughout the west has resulted not only in many of them feeling worthless, with the result that they now reject the worthwhile values of their own societies (with some turning to crime, drugs, irresponsible behaviours etc) it has also undermined any reason for them to shape up.

You might as well be hung for being a sheep as a lamb!

Furthermore, the ubiquitous negative descriptions of men that continually pour out of the mainstream media simply make many men feel quite entitled to behave in accordance with those very same descriptions!

For example, I once saw a headline in a newspaper complaining about the fact that, "Men do not do housework."

As a taunt to my partner, I cut out the headline and stuck it on the notice board in the kitchen. But I added the following words underneath it. "Well, if men are not doing any housework, then neither am I!"

The point is that if men are persistently deemed to be slothful - or whatever - then many men, with much justification, will see no reason to behave any differently from the way in which they and their fellow men are being depicted.

2. The western educational system has been so heavily biased against boys for the past few decades that they are doing very badly at school. Not only have the educationalists been using diabolically poor teaching methods (e.g. in their teaching of reading skills) but the curricula have been so feminised and politically corrected that boys quickly lose any interest that they might have had in being 'educated'.

This, coupled with poor standards of discipline, has led to our societies having to bear the burden of having millions of undisciplined, uneducated males in their midsts.

3. The effect of feminism and political correctness in education - e.g. in the study of History - and in the mainstream media, where 'great white men of noble character' are hardly seen to exist any more means that there are few good role models for boys in their growing years. And the images of men that are daily inflicted upon young men and boys are overwhelmingly negative.

Is it surprising, therefore, that so many men actually have no real concept of what a 'good man' is?

Such men do not exist in the world that is being presented to them.

4. Thanks to the wholesale corruption of the family courts and the "no-fault" divorce laws, men no longer have any real motivation to devote most of their lives, their love, their money etc into bringing up a family. Why should they - when it can all be taken away from them at the whim of their partners?

Furthermore, prejudicial 'relationship laws' - such as those pertaining to domestic violence and child abuse etc - make men feel very insecure within their relationships.

And to add to all this there is the daily carpeting of man-hatred that pours out of the feminist-dominated media telling women and children to report their partners for abuse of some sort.

Well. There are only two main ways in which men can deal with the relationship insecurity that all this brings about.

Firstly, they can stop caring very much about their relationships so that they are not too hurt when they eventually break down.

Secondly, they can refrain completely from committing themselves to, or from investing in, any long-term serious ones.

And, indeed, this is exactly what the research shows western men to be doing.

5. The welfare system hotly promoted and buttressed both by the feminists and the politically correct supports single motherhood. And the same is true for the laws concerning child-support payments and alimony.

These not only make fathers and husbands redundant, they also encourage their very own women and children to see them in exactly this way.

Men are, therefore, easily rejected, and they are often also treated with contempt.

They are, after all, redundant.

And another word for 'redundant' is, of course, 'worthless'.

6. Family and marital breakdown are the major cause of misbehaviour and poor socialisation in males. Indeed, those who are brought up without their fathers at home are far more likely ...

... to live in poverty and deprivation
... to be trouble in school
... to have more trouble getting along with others
... to have health problems
... to suffer physical, emotional, or sexual abuse
... to run away from home
... to experience problems with sexual health
... to become teenage parents
... to offend against the law
... to smoke, drink alcohol and take drugs
... to play truant from school
... to be excluded from school
... to leave school at 16
... to have adjustments to adulthood problems
... to attain little in the way of qualifications
... to experience unemployment
... to have low incomes
... to be on welfare
... to experience homelessness
... to go to jail
... to suffer from long term emotional and psychological problems
... to engage only in casual relationships
... to have children outside marriage or outside any partnership

But feminists have always done their best to break up traditional families and to exclude fathers from them, because they believe that traditional families are oppressive to women.

And this particularly huge catalogue of societal ills that has arisen directly from their assault on marriage and family was successfully repressed by the mainstream feminist-fearing media for two decades.

7. The encouragement of immigration - legal and illegal - by the left-wing politically correct (supported heavily by feminists) has led to a breaking down of the main culture and to a large increase in the size of the criminal underclass. This, together with all the factors mentioned previously, has led to millions of young men engaging in crime or in being closely associated with others who engage in it.

In the UK, one-third of all men have a criminal conviction. In the USA, some 2 million men are in prison and another 4 million are somehow currently involved with the criminal justice system.

8. As Lew Rockwell readers will know only too well, taxes are far too high as a consequence of the ever-burgeoning government and its ever-increasing activities.

Well. It is women - and feminists in particular - and other 'minorities' - through their politically-corrected activists - who are the main supporters of big government and heavy taxation.

And the result of heavy taxation is that people are less motivated when it comes to working for a living and, for many men, it makes crime and sloth an even more attractive option.

Well, I could go on and make many more connections between feminism and the poor behaviours of men.

But do I really need to?

If you glance again at the 8 points above you will see that they allude to huge negative influences that impact, in some way or other, upon all males. And they each affect all males very badly indeed.

Furthermore, every single one of these huge negative influences directly arises from ideas and policies promoted and buttressed by feminists.

Indeed, feminism is the main cause of the most pressing problems facing western societies.

None of the above is to suggest that genes do not play a part in the bad behaviours of men. They surely do - just as much as they do with regard to the bad behaviours of women. And neither is it necessary to make any claims about whether children are 'born good' - and are corrupted by society - or 'born bad' - and need to be disciplined and socialised.

The point is that we do know that the way in which societies are constructed, the values that they hold, and the methods through which their aims are sought, have a great bearing on the way in which the people within them behave - e.g. just look at the effects of fatherlessness listed above.

And when an ideology has been hugely pervasive, influential and dominant for three whole decades it should not be allowed to escape from being seen as significantly responsible for the social consequences that are very clearly associated with it.

Furthermore, if western men continue to be persistently attacked, accused, vilified, undermined and demonised, disempowered within their families and discriminated against through the justice system, their behaviours are likely to grow considerably worse!

And if feminists continue to pursue their aims without regard to the way in which they are alienating millions of men, my guess is that in the not-too-distant future both they and their supporters (e.g. in the media, in academia and in government) are going to be in for a very nasty shock.

Finally, given that feminists have ruthlessly pursued their aims without regard to the well-being of men, why should men not now do the very same?

For example, why should men strive particularly hard to support their families given that some 50% of them will eventually lose them; and much else besides - with a further significant percentage remaining in unhappy marriages because they have no realistic alternatives? Why should they labour to set themselves up for so much serious hurt?

Why should men work for long hours? - particularly if they have onerous jobs and given that the state will take much of their earnings in taxes.

Why should men with limited resources bother to save any money when their governments will tax it and subject it to significant devaluation?

Why should men commit themselves to one particular woman when so many are now available for fun and frolics?

Why should men not seek hours of pleasure from superficial pursuits - such as those deriving from their various gadgets, toys, sports and videogames? Do not women spend many of their hours gawping at celebrities and soap operas, and thinking about fashion, cosmetics and romantic fantasies?

And what, exactly, are men supposed to be aiming for?

Why should men not be aggressive or offensive toward women given that women are nowadays aggressive and offensive toward them?

Indeed, why should men pursue 'nobler' aims when these are persistently undermined by feminists and their governments?

The bad behaviours of men mostly reflect the fact that western men are now following more their own desires and their own predilections. And they are caring less about how this may affect others.

In other words, they are doing exactly what the feminist handbooks and many women's magazines have been urging women to do for years.
Image
User avatar
joe_canadian
Posts: 7446
Joined: 3/17/2002, 4:11 pm
Location: Ontario

Post by joe_canadian »

*applause*
Just because I am sexy, naked, a bassist, and sporting a top hat doesn't make me Duncan Coutts!
User avatar
joe_canadian
Posts: 7446
Joined: 3/17/2002, 4:11 pm
Location: Ontario

Post by joe_canadian »

oh sweet irony.

this I saw just after I read that.
Attachments
yay.JPG
yay.JPG (51.84 KiB) Viewed 706 times
Just because I am sexy, naked, a bassist, and sporting a top hat doesn't make me Duncan Coutts!
Corey
Posts: 2578
Joined: 3/19/2002, 10:25 am
Location: Rochester, NY
Contact:

Post by Corey »

Read my sig.

Though, these items may be true, they are by no means an excuse to act accordingly. This is a silly blame game.
<img src="http://www.clumsymonkey.net/phpBB2/download.php?id=4500">
#define QUESTION (bb || !bb) --william shakespeare
User avatar
I AM ME
Posts: 5956
Joined: 3/13/2002, 9:09 am
Location: Manitoba

Post by I AM ME »

hmmm it des make many points, i'm a very very strong supporter of equality for women and all people for that matter, but feminism isn;t about equality, it's about discrimination now, and it's sickening.

PS WHM (White Heterosexual Males) are now known to be one of the most discriminated against group in western civilization, when it comes to jobs a white man will lose a job he is more qualified for to a ethnic or woman. Which is just as disgusting as before when women were discriminated against, if only interviews could be conducted through papers, that way employers had no idea of the gender and background of the applicants, this would be truly fair, and once the employer decided to hire and individual the name and gender could be released

This is from a diffrent thread but it pretty much descibes my view of the hypocrit feminists

"this bitch has obviously had a bad run in with men and is bitter towards all of them obviously she isthe one with a mental problem which she should seek help with, if you can't accept trust men to her point then it is you who has sexist problems and need to seek help. She is no better in that article thne when men dubbed it to mentally straining for women to vote. She is no better then the men she hates, if anything she is worse, because at t he time it was something taught as accepted, now sexism is unacceptable and she still participates in it. Die hypocritical, sexist she pig!"
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good

"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911

"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good

I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.

"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
One-Eye
Posts: 3713
Joined: 9/11/2002, 12:34 am

Post by One-Eye »

This article may have a few points, but as Corey says, it's no excuse. "Oh, boo hoo, women are telling us to act badly, so that's why we do it. It isn't our fault!"

Bull. Shit.

You listen to the feminist press? You believe it? You act accordingly? And it's not your fault? Please. I'm not saying that feminism is a good or a bad thing. But I'm sick of people blaming their own actions on anything they can think of. So <i>what</i> if the media says something bad about men? Or about women? Or about any group that you belong to? The media isn't the almighty arbiter of how you live your life. Grow a fucking spine. Learn to ignore it.

If men are behaving badly, it's not anyone's fault but their own.
User avatar
mosaik
Posts: 1637
Joined: 3/16/2002, 2:09 am
Location: Edmonton
Contact:

Post by mosaik »

One word: accountability.
Image
User avatar
starvingeyes
Posts: 2009
Joined: 5/8/2002, 3:44 pm
Location: california's not very far

Post by starvingeyes »

i agree with the authours points about social changes (refusal of men to marry etc.) that have come about as a result of feminism, not of direct, criminal action taken by men.

however, according to your logic (and logical it is!), does this same rule (take responsibility for your own actions/situation) apply to the poor, blacks, females, hispanics, immigrants, starving africans etc?

or do you hold only the great and might HWM to this standard?
Image
User avatar
mosaik
Posts: 1637
Joined: 3/16/2002, 2:09 am
Location: Edmonton
Contact:

Post by mosaik »

are you asking me?
Image
User avatar
starvingeyes
Posts: 2009
Joined: 5/8/2002, 3:44 pm
Location: california's not very far

Post by starvingeyes »

sorry, i was asking aerin.

ps. i hate you.
Image
One-Eye
Posts: 3713
Joined: 9/11/2002, 12:34 am

Post by One-Eye »

Of course I feel that it applies to everyone. Where have I ever said otherwise?
User avatar
starvingeyes
Posts: 2009
Joined: 5/8/2002, 3:44 pm
Location: california's not very far

Post by starvingeyes »

don't things like welfare and affirmative action directly violate that principle, however?
Image
User avatar
joe_canadian
Posts: 7446
Joined: 3/17/2002, 4:11 pm
Location: Ontario

Post by joe_canadian »

this is my problem with feminism, it's a widespread mentality that has girls I know and respect spouting gems like this as if it were a simple, accepted fact:

"Guys are nothing without us. Their main objective in life is to find the hottest girl possible, screw her, and then smile and grin at their guy friends while attempting to give off the atmosphere of being the best guy out their for what he's accomplished. Which was nothing to begin with."
Just because I am sexy, naked, a bassist, and sporting a top hat doesn't make me Duncan Coutts!
User avatar
Sufjan Stevens
Posts: 6738
Joined: 3/17/2002, 12:25 pm
Location: Detroit, MI

Post by Sufjan Stevens »

Here's my problem with feminism.

Feminism seems like a huge joke nowadays. Face it, I don't see feminism fighting for anything that is life-changing for women. There are so many things that the organization should be fighting for, but they get overlooked for inconsequential things. If feminism actually fought for pure equality between the sexes, by all means, I would be all for it. But all I see feminism doing is complaining about petty things. Fight for equal pay for equal work, not fight to gain access to an exclusive golf club. Publish literature about the injustices about real problems, and do it in a respectful way, don't print out tripe about how men are evil. Articles like this just make me loathe the feminist movement each time I hear anything about it. Face it, feminism is a fucking joke compared to what it fought for in the 1920s and 1960s. If it's not fighting for equality for all women to benefit for, then it's useless. If it's not printing out literature that actually presents it points in a decent matter, then it just makes feminism look sexist and spiteful.
I faced death. I went in with my arms swinging. But I heard my own breath and had to face that I'm still living. I'm still flesh. I hold on to awful feelings. I'm not dead... My chest still draws breath. I hold it. I'm buoyant. There's no end.
User avatar
I AM ME
Posts: 5956
Joined: 3/13/2002, 9:09 am
Location: Manitoba

Post by I AM ME »

:nod:
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good

"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911

"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good

I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.

"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
User avatar
I AM ME
Posts: 5956
Joined: 3/13/2002, 9:09 am
Location: Manitoba

Post by I AM ME »

as anyone who follows my posts in the politics and such, you know that i'm very left wing, and very moralistic, so i am by no mean sexist, but lots of the new feminists are complete and utter she pigs. Really i stand for equality, not, everyone is equal just some are more equal then others
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good

"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911

"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good

I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.

"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
User avatar
Narbus
Posts: 574
Joined: 8/7/2002, 7:56 pm

Post by Narbus »

Pretty much everything Alan said, plus the observation that NOW has, in my opinion, done more to hurt the idea of equality then anything else.
You can't go around building a better world for people. Only people can build a better world for people. Otherwise it's just a cage.
--Terry Pratchett


When it's cold I'd like to die
Corey
Posts: 2578
Joined: 3/19/2002, 10:25 am
Location: Rochester, NY
Contact:

Post by Corey »

End women's suffrage NOW!
















:lol:
<img src="http://www.clumsymonkey.net/phpBB2/download.php?id=4500">
#define QUESTION (bb || !bb) --william shakespeare
Post Reply