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Why do you hate Bush?

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Ok, there's a lot of contempt for the president here at the CM. I'm not going to pretend like he's my favorite guy in the World but I'd like to hear what your beef with him is. Let's see if you can make a case without using a typical cliche statement. Prove to me you know why you hate him, because right now, I'm not so sure you do.
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i like this site

http://www.bushwatch.com/
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Well, la dee da. Why do you hate him?
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Cause he started a war for no real reason, he has risked american lives and made america less safe by invading Iraq, Saddam already had little power due to his father, Bush just wanted to finsih him off.

I don't hate him, I can't say I truely hate anyone
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olpcc wrote:Cause he started a war for no real reason, he has risked american lives and made america less safe by invading Iraq, Saddam already had little power due to his father, Bush just wanted to finsih him off.

I don't hate him, I can't say I truely hate anyone


Yes, yes, the war... of course. Yes he risked american lives, sure. No real reason? ... well I guess liberation is overrated, I'm sure you're willing to give that up. America less safe? Well I suppose buildings blowing up isn't too much of a problem. And he didn't start it alone. (Remember England). Do you hate Tony Blare too? Saddam had little power? Yeah, I guess everyone has statues errected of them all over their country. I'm sure every Iraqi lived in a gold-plated palace. Those mass executions and throwing people in wood-chippers must've just been a hobby.

But lets forget the Iraq war... that is a debate that will go on forever, and I've grown tired of it. One last question though, if Bush is such a "warmonger", why is he trying so furiously to keep Israel and Palestine in peace. Let's face it, Israel could obliterate Palestine fairly easily if the US would let them.

Anyways, I'm curious what people think of his internal policies? Does anyone even know what they are?

Cue "taxcuts only for the rich" retort...
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Why would we forget the war on iraq debate in a Bush topic because it is obiviously what he cares most about.. I'll stop after this

Saddam had little power in the world he could not touch the U.S. if he really wanted too, yes he had prower in his country in poverty after Bush senior destroyed most of it... and terrorism in the U.S did not come from Iraq.. 9-11 and Iraq have no connection... Tony Blair was about in England who wanted to go to war the rest of the english government was against it.. and now Iran and other Middle Eastern countries are going to be againts the U.S. and there are new levels of hate steming from this war... American Soliders are now getting killed by people from Iran coming over to kill Americans because they hate them


I worry about his internal policies he is always to busy with international policies to look at them first... I wish he would fix americans problems first.. we are the rishest country yet we have millions of people that are homeless or in extreme poverty and its is only getting worse due to his american policies, unemployment continues to skyrocket why doesn't he work on that
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So, you say leave Saddam in power? I guess that works too.

The US is getting worse due to which policies? The economy was slipping at the end of Clinton's presidency. It is a natural cycle, and yes healthy. A president has very little to do with how the economy functions being that every bill must go through congress. It would take something like 8 years to make a significant change or something catastrophic like 9/11.

To say that Bush does nothing for the US is pretty silly. You are merely blinded by the only thing you know... the war.

Do you know what the "Leave No Child Behind" Act is?
Of course there are the taxcuts.
What about this new Medicare bill that helps seniors afford drugs?
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Corey wrote:Let's see if you can make a case without using a typical cliche statement.


Did it ever occur to you that said statements are clichéd because a lot of people believe these statements due to their truth?
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Axtech wrote:
Corey wrote:Let's see if you can make a case without using a typical cliche statement.


Did it ever occur to you that said statements are clichéd because a lot of people believe these statements due to their truth?


No, it occurred to me that people believe these statements because liberal media keeps perpetuating them.
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heh. this one's easy.

Q: How do you know when a politician is lying?
A: His lips are moving.

GWB is a member of the new world order. I know you'll tell me that it was not the president, personally, that passed the PATRIOT act or PATRIOT II but it was during his term that these atrocities happened. It's during Bush's term that we have amerikans building death camps, we have secret arrests and people detained for 18 months without due process, when you have the government lying about sept 11, when you need no real proof to invade a country besides drumming up the concept that you're "liberating" them and the free press is being censored.

GWB is the amerikan hitler. that's why i'm not a fan.

that, and i fundamentally despise all government and the thinking that encourages a man to want to rule his peers.
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Well, I knew your reasons, Doug. Technically, you didn't need to respond. I just want to know if everyone else knows.

Doug, if I asked you if you liked Bill Clinton, you would immediately say no. Some of the people who hate Bush, liked Clinton, and that is why I say they don't know why they hate him.
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i understand. i am also interested in their replies, and would like to add this to your question if i may:

if you don't like bush, do you really think Gore/Clinton/Democrat president would be any better or different?
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I just don't like the man. Even during the election I disliked him. In my opinion he's just a trigger happy son looking to make his daddy proud of him.
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I had no problem with Clinton. He was an intelligent, but he was also human. It was dumb of him to lie about the sex scandal, but I don't think it's anyone else's business in the first place. I don't like Bush. Usually people choose a smart, logical person to lead them. Apparently we've broken the cycle? Where are all the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? I think Tony Blair was also very ignorant to follow Bush's lead. As I've heard most of the Brits are pretty disgusted with his actions.

P.S.- Bush is, though, good at sidestepping questions!! Or maybe he didn't understand them in the first place....
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clinton was the most warmongering president in the history of the united states of america.

even gwb has not begun to compare with the number of innocent lives lost in clintons various "mini-wars" or extensive bombing campaigns.

all together, bill clinton attacked eight different nations during his two terms. that works out to be about 1 nation every year.

furthermore, he was extensively involved in various CIA drug smuggling prior to his presidency and he has been connected to various "suicides" which occured in murky circumstances. it will bill clinton's ATF who attacked and brutally murdered the branch davidians at waco. it was bill clinton who pardoned dozens of career criminals immediately before leaving the white house.

bill clinton is a member of the bilderberg group, just like both bushies have been. bill clinton pledged millions of dollars in support and weaponry to israel so they could continue their brutal and nazi-esque occupation of palestine.

bill clinton also sexually assualted and or harrassed a number of different women during his time in office, including at least one rape.

smart? perhaps. logical? i think not. william clinton is just as evil a motherfucker as bush.
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I don't like Bush because he's a Republican, and I'm a Democrat. I don't like his politics.

Also, he's pretty stupid. And he's dimming the line between church and state, and that is a <i>very</i> important issue to me.
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but... but.. what is the difference between democrats and republicans?
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really? what if it means a 1.2 billion dollar tax hike on "the rich" to take care of "the poor"?

edit: do not respond. this is threadjacking, again. i apologize. continue talking about bush.
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You really don't know the difference between Democrats and Republicans, Doug? Do I really have to educate you in political theory?
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wait! i know! i know!

democrats want the state to do thing directly, like pay for the elderly's drugs with medicare. republicans want to bamboozle you, by subsidizing the elderly and then letting them by drugs through "private" corporations and the like.

result = the same. proof: read above about clinton, the democrat.
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