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Corey wrote:
Andrea wrote:Nobody wants a war.

Except us.


and England, and Spain, and Australia, and Japan, and Mexico, and Turkey, and Israel, and ...


my bad... here is the list as provided by http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,81420,00.html

Afghanistan
Albania
Australia
Azerbaijan
Colombia
Czech Republic
Denmark
El Salvador
Eritrea
Estonia
Ethiopia
Georgia
Hungary
Iceland
Italy
Japan
Korea
Latvia
Lithuania
Macedonia
Netherlands
Nicaragua
Philippines
Poland
Romania
Slovakia
Spain
Turkey
United Kingdom
Uzbekistan
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And the question that now comes to mind is where is Eritrea and who the hell are they? :lol:

Seriously, who are they, where are they at, and what "side" are they for?
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Mister Chainsaw wrote:And the question that now comes to mind is where is Eritrea and who the hell are they? :lol:

Seriously, who are they, where are they at, and what "side" are they for?


I was actually wondering the same thing. :lol:
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They're probably some misiscule country engulfed by larger countries in Africa and want an international voice so people like us recognize the fury of Eritrea, or something.

Or maybe it's like the movie Wag The Dog. Their country could be shitty, which is a probability, and they figure if a bomb or two gets dropped on their country, America has to pay them to fix their land after the war is over. God bless America and it's stupid laws.
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I just heard on the radio that there are yet another 30 "private supporters" as well
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Why do I have a not so warm and fuzzy feeling the provate supporters are not for the US?
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ERITREA

Eritrea became an independent state in 1993, following an internationally monitored referendum in which citizens voted
overwhelmingly for independence from Ethiopia. The Eritrean People's Liberation Front (EPLF), which led the 30-year war
for independence, has controlled the country since it defeated Ethiopian armed forces in 1991; its leader, Isaias Afwerki,
serves as the President. The EPLF became the People's Front for Democracy and Justice (PFDJ), and redefined itself as a
political party in 1994; it is the sole political party. The Government continues to delay its stated program to hold elections:
elections originally scheduled for 1998 were postponed indefinitely due to the outbreak of an armed border conflict with
Ethiopia that began in May 1998. The Constitution provides for democratic freedoms; however, while it entered into force
in May 1998, its provisions have not been implemented fully yet. The judiciary is formally independent, but it is weak and
subject to executive interference.
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So this begs the question, "What can Eritrea do in this war?" I am not too keen on my African geography, but is like this rinky-dink place on the water? That would be their only use, a naval stronghold.
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basically just a place to station troops.
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Wait a second, Korea is on that list. As in, they know we're going into another country, and we're going to have a military presence in the country after the conflict, like we have in Korea, and yet they support it. Perhaps this is evidence that they don't feel having US troops in their own country is such a bad thing after all, or else I don't think they would be supporting letting it happen again.
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You listed a bunch of countries that in many cases are too economically and politically weak to stand up to big bully USA. What is your point?
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happeninfish wrote:You listed a bunch of countries that in many cases are too economically and politically weak to stand up to big bully USA. What is your point?


oh really? did you even read the list?

If France can say no, surely most of the nations on that list could..
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aren't england and united kingdom the same thing?
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Of course I read the list. I cite as an example Romania. I happen to have been there several times. They were destroyed by communism and are still hardly more than a collection of farmers and factory workers. The economy is in ruins. How the hell are they going to stand up to YOU?
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CIA wrote:aren't england and united kingdom the same thing?


Almost. But if you noticed.. "England" isn't on the list
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happeninfish wrote:Of course I read the list. I cite as an example Romania. I happen to have been there several times. They were destroyed by communism and are still hardly more than a collection of farmers and factory workers. The economy is in ruins. How the hell are they going to stand up to YOU?


Ok, I'll pretend that is a valid point. What about some of the others. Australia? UK? Japan? etc.
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happeninfish wrote:in many cases


point being:

the list is padded.

big time.
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Corey wrote:Japan


is only going to help for post-war stuff
so they really wont be doing anything
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And of course the only countries that should count are the big wealthy ones. :roll:

Maybe some of those little countries that you dismiss as padding really do support this because weapons of mass destruction are a concern for them, not because they feel pressured into it by the US. Attack the US and you piss us off. Attack them, and they're destroyed. Sounds like they have everything to lose if they were attacked, and that gives them a damn good reason to support disarming rogue nations.
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sandnippy wrote:
Corey wrote:Japan


is only going to help for post-war stuff
so they really wont be doing anything


Well that is all they really can do. They can help rebuild when it is all over. Japan isn't going to be useful to store troops and they don't have an offensive army, so post-war operations is all they can offer.
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