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http://www.nwc.navy.mil/newrulesets/ThePentagonsNewMap.htm

You don't have to read the whole article if you don't want, because the first paragraph says it all:

LET ME TELL YOU why military engagement with Saddam Hussein’s regime in Baghdad is not only necessary and inevitable, but good.
When the United States finally goes to war again in the Persian Gulf, it will not constitute a settling of old scores, or just an enforced disarmament of illegal weapons, or a distraction in the war on terror. Our next war in the Gulf will mark a historical tipping point—the moment when Washington takes real ownership of strategic security in the age of globalization.
That is why the public debate about this war has been so important: It forces Americans to come to terms with I believe is the new security paradigm that shapes this age, namely, Disconnectedness defines danger. Saddam Hussein’s outlaw regime is dangerously disconnected from the globalizing world, from its rule sets, its norms, and all the ties that bind countries together in mutually assured dependence


Are you people reading this? Disconnectedness defines danger!!!! He's basically saying "if you're not PRO AMERIKA then you are THE ENEMY!"

and this guy advises the white house!

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holy shit.
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he's got 16 or so target nations too.

i really believe we are moving towards "Planet USA"
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i think the US is past its peak. all of the great empires in history have hit their high points and then crumbled often as not from the inside out. it seems to me that the US has already hit its high point.
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what an asshole!
and now its international security. the call of the righteous men.
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well, at least canada isn't on the list of unstable nations.

yet.
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shouldn't take long, what with us wanting UN sanctions and all.
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classic seam state...Mexico?

that's why Mexican President Vincente Fox just told Bush "You don't pressure me into anything, I'm not voting for your war with Iraq, you don't have the guts to go it alone!"
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Did any of you even read the article or are you taking Doug's post out of context?

I'm willing to bet the latter.
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i read it.

the whole thing.

i don't see how anybody can possibly say that this article, and recent us foreign policy, is not proof that they are mobilizing to more or less amerikanize the globe.
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Post by Corey »

That's one way to interpret it. You can also look at it as creating global peace. The US is not trying to control the world. The US always gives back land and also makes sure any other nation that seizes control of land gives it back as well. The US is helping people control their own territory, rather than be dictated.
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hey you know what, Mexico just voted no...are there sanctions comming down on them? how about bombs, are we going to bomb the hell out of them? i don't see a military linning up at the border...give me a break guys. :roll:
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oh, give it time, they're still pushing the iraq agenda right now.
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mexico isn't mentioned in the list of 19 danger states.

i don't mean that amerika means to actually stick a flag in the countries and call them US soil. I'm thinking they'll install figurehead governments ala the soviet union during the cold war.
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oh but it should be, cause Mexico is trying to "Disconnect" with the US right? That's according to this guy.....or your interpretation of what he's saying.
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Post by Venom »

Corey notice how no one commented on your CORRECT claims?! For some reason Doug is looked at as a genius on here. I guess its because this board is filled with a lot of disgruntled teens that think the world and everyone in it are out to get them. They feel better when they protest the government, its rules, and its policies. Doug is head "anarchist" and no matter what he says they will believe it. In a way he is like a Charles Manson type figure.
Doug knows that the majority of the posters won't read the whole article and will just take what he says as the facts. Its easy to do this to weak minded individuals or "followers". No one that listens to his crap seems to have any sense of the world around them. They lack leadership skills and the ability to think for themselves.
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hurray for general flaming. thanks bud.
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Post by nelison »

ya really.... it's sad. The vast vast majority of the people on this board that talk about politics know enough to speak about it. Not everyone has bullet-proof arguments, and I know I can speak for plenty of people here in saying that I by no means am a "rebel teenager" who opposes the govt and all it's actions.

you're acting just the same in many political comments as the next guy on here so don't go saying you are better than any other person on this board.
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yeah. you're pretty much voted off the island, bud.
and now its international security. the call of the righteous men.
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