pragmatist wrote:what we are supposed to believe is that the evil saddam is holding these secret weapons that somehow everyone knows about but has never seen. now, im not denying the fact that he most likely has weapons...but prove that hes going to use them. WHERE IS THE PROOF. WE ARE BASING THIS WAR ON PURE SPECULATION. once someone has proved that sadaam will unleash these mysterious weapons upon us, i might feel the slightest bit of justification behind this war. on second thought, no war is justified.
oh, and may i ask one more thing? what ever happened to good ol' bin laden? it seems as though we have forgotten about him in the midst of all this sadaam/weapons/war confusion, when only a few months ago he was the most wanted man in america. silly fools. cant you see that this is the government and the media playing with your small minds? obviously not.
ok, he used bio peapons in the war with Iran and on his own people, Kurds living in the north. do you know about this? cause it happened. you can try and discredit anyone you want to, that doesn't hide the fact that it still happened. that's like saying that the holocaust, the bulldozing in palistine, or the towers falling never happened. where's your bleeding heart for victims of these tragedies? this has nothing to do with oil. if it was we would have taken it the first time. in fact the objective of the first attack was to get Iraq out of Kuwait. we didn't even want Sadam out because in order to do that we would have to take control of Iraq, something we didn't want to do. We wern't authorized by the UN to do so, and guess what we complied with the UN. pretty shocking huh? these sanctions tell Iraq to sell oil for food, medicine and humanitarian supplies for his people, but they still die off don't they? then he'll turn around and show starving people and hospitals with no medicine because he wants bleeding hearts to buy into his propaganda. what's the price for oil now a days? that's extra profit for them. france and germany bought into his propaganda and are trading with Iraq. if we give him food and medicine for his assets, and it doesn't go to the people where the hell do you think the money from germany and france is going to go? Saudi Arabia, and Syria both said they condem sadam for his starving people, not the US or the sanctions. after the war, inspectors found shit loads of chem and bio weapons. they found rockets with sarin gas in them in 1998. lets not forget the rail gun that could have hit the US if launched. defectors told the inspectors, that's only a fraction of what Iraq really has. there's your proof, he's got left over stockpiles that are un accounted for. where is the rest? hidden, and when the inspectors were getting too close to it guess what? Sadam kicked them out in 1998. what the hell are you hiding that you don't want the world to see? that's like the cops having a warrant for a search of your car. fuck it let it happen. ask the cops to show you what they have in their pockets, so that they don't plant stuff on you. if you dont have anything you don't care, but if you do you start getting nervous and not cooperative. if your not cooperative there are consequences and they are going to enforce them. but if you don't have anything you can tell the cops after the search, hey, you didn't find anything, i want a wrongful search and seizure case on you. you can legally do that, and Iraq can easily tell the world through the mainstream media hey, the UN searched me and found nothing, bunch of ass holes. that's how you discredit the UN. but they're not doing that are they, they're sneaking around and all the UN is finding is a bunch of sterile buildings in the middle of the desert, where sand gets everywhere. he's not a moron like bush, he's not going to show off what he's got so that the UN can make a case against him, he wants the UN to make an ass of themselves and find nothing. it's common sense. triple the inspectors, and call for an even more extensive search, just like france wants. that's reasonable.
speaking of OBL, he just told the world through Al-Jezeera (is it ok if i quote these guys? are they credible? you guys are the experts. ) that he thinks sadam is not a good man. hell, he even wants to be cut off from Sadam, that tells you something, that he's got oposition within the arab peoples too. and do you honestly think OBl is going to be found within a year? hell no! it took the US two weeks to find Richard Noriega in Panama. and we have bases in Panama. fucking Panama dude, look at the size of that country, and now look at the rugged terrain of afganistan and the size. big difference huh? he probably isn't in the country, but that's a big task to undertake. what did bush say too? were going to find stuff that the media isn't going to be able to write about, OBL isn't going to be in the news forever, not while war is in the balance, columbia is in ruins, N. korea is doing their thing, and bush tries to save the economy. (though it not going to work)
