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France to ban "overtly religious symbols" in schoo

Posted: 12/11/2003, 3:25 pm
by Solidarity 9-6347
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3309885.stm

is this some sort of joke or am i missing something? :wtf:

Posted: 12/11/2003, 3:38 pm
by Axtech
Wow. So much for freedom.

Just to cut it before it happens, I know someone (cough*venom*cough) is going to try to use this against France and for the war on terrorism.

Kinda takes the bite off your remarks when someone else predicts what you're going to say, eh?

Posted: 12/11/2003, 5:49 pm
by christa lynn
"Secularism is the separation of church and state, but it is also the respect of differences."

Yeah, I'm all for respecting differences. But I think banning "overt" display of them kinda goes against that. Besides, what is "overt" and what isn't? How large is a large Christian cross? When is a headscarf by definition a muslim headscarf? (<--- if there is a particular difference (other than intent) I apologize and please correct me.) This law stinks of ambiguity.

Posted: 12/11/2003, 8:29 pm
by Corey
This is where we are all heading. The ban of religion.

Posted: 12/11/2003, 8:59 pm
by Axtech
Makes sense to me! Free speech for all!*





*Assuming your opinion is the same as ours

Posted: 12/12/2003, 10:38 am
by Soozy
This was featured on the tv news yesterday. It sounds like it's really aimed at the Muslim headscarves and that the change to make it 'overtly religous articles' or whatever that includes skull caps and crosses is just to make it not look like they're just targetting Muslims.

They spoke to some politician who was talking about how Muslims should become more French instead of France becoming more Muslim, especially that its state schools are non-religious. But I thought that wearing a headscarf wasn't some kind of optional thing that Muslims chose to wear, but fundamental to what they believe (in spite of the fact that not all muslims choose to wear them). All that will happen is that Muslim girls will be taken out of the state schools and new Muslim schools will start opening and children will all start going to different schools based on their religious beliefs

Posted: 12/12/2003, 8:59 pm
by call me andrew
thats fucked up.