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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1804&ncid=1804&e=3&u=/washpost/20031208/tc_washpost/a43991_2003dec7

it's amazing that the goal was to prevent future events such as September 11th from happening again, yet the US govt still hasn't made things better in their own country, yet they went and ravaged someone elses.

Again, good ol' USA, you can always count on them to lead by example.

Did you read the article or did you just see the headline and your USA hatred overwelmed you? Seems as though there are legitimate shortcommings in the technology. I'm sure if these huge machines were installed you'd be the first one to complain that "it takes to long to get through security. Damn USA is too paranoid and its an inconvience to me."

well for the amount of money they put into an unsuccessful war, you'd think they would have spent a little more on developing technology that can help prevent the event which started it all. The fact that anyone can still get on a plane and cause havoc is pretty pathetic when you consider the circumstances.

Technology is worthless unless you know how to use it.

"Unsuccessful war"???? You have got to be kidding. And as Venom said... I'm not sure you even read the article.

Unsuccessful because 1. they didn't get the man that they were after. and 2. the world's opinion of the USA has deminished greatly since the start of the war. In a matter of 2 years they went from the most well liked country in the world right after 9/11 to be probably the most hated.

Simply because you claim victory doesn't mean it's a success.

My point was that they went and bombed the hell out of two countries before they even had things straight in their own country. That's somewhat hypocritical isn't it? To go and change another country when you're not leading by example?

What are you talking about? Seriously, you need someone to proof read before you post. Just because a google prank says something is a failure, doesn't make it so.

J-Neli wrote:Unsuccessful because 1. they didn't get the man that they were after. and 2. the world's opinion of the USA has deminished greatly since the start of the war. In a matter of 2 years they went from the most well liked country in the world right after 9/11 to be probably the most hated.

Simply because you claim victory doesn't mean it's a success.

My point was that they went and bombed the hell out of two countries before they even had things straight in their own country. That's somewhat hypocritical isn't it? To go and change another country when you're not leading by example?

Just because Bush says something is a success, doesn't make it so.

The US has not found any weapons of mass destruction, they haven't found Saddam Hussain (nor Bin laden) and there still is no democratic government (you might even argue that the US doesn't even have that, but that's something else). Those were the main reasons they went to Iraq. That the war has also had some positive results, doesn't make it succesful at all.

ITS NOT OVER YET!!!! YOU CAN'T CALL IT A SUCCESS OR FAILURE!!!

it hasn't been successful so far then

Corey wrote:What are you talking about? Seriously, you need someone to proof read before you post. Just because a google prank says something is a failure, doesn't make it so.

what the hell are you talking about? We've been challenging the reasons for this war since the start... not just since some stupid google search.

I apoligize for typing it up rather quickly, but I was running short on time, but I'm sure such intellects as we have here could easily find my point, as it was pretty obvious.

Clumsyboy wrote:it hasn't been successful so far then

Of course it has. We killed more of them than they killed of us. That means we are winning. Simple logic really.

Eelco wrote:Just because Bush says something is a success, doesn't make it so.

The US has not found any weapons of mass destruction, they haven't found Saddam Hussain (nor Bin laden) and there still is no democratic government (you might even argue that the US doesn't even have that, but that's something else). Those were the main reasons they went to Iraq. That the war has also had some positive results, doesn't make it succesful at all.

Perhaps... but we have his country. As for democracy... you expect that to happen overnight?

what are the positive results of the war in iraq?

Iraq is under US control now.

killing = good

Corey wrote:

Clumsyboy wrote:it hasn't been successful so far then

Of course it has. We killed more of them than they killed of us. That means we are winning. Simple logic really.

dear god. I hope you are kidding.

Venom wrote:ITS NOT OVER YET!!!! YOU CAN'T CALL IT A SUCCESS OR FAILURE!!!

How long should we go on letting people die before we call it a failure and end it?

Some of you just don't understand. You know what I encourage all of you to come to a real political debate forum. It would be beneficial to you and I would get a kick out of watching you all get blasted. Just let me know I'll give you the web address.