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To recap, Sherman Austin was the webmaster of raisethefist.com. Over the last two years, his house has been raided by the FBI, he has been arrested and held in federal custody, had his rights routinely violated, his reputation slandered in the press and now he's been sentanced to one year in jail.

why? he ran an anarchist website. that's the only reason. read the interview but do it with an open mind. don't write him off as a campus anarchist. notice how he doesn't resort to calling the government any names or bitching about the way things went. he just recites the facts.

this is an educated, intelligent young man. he's no more violent then I am. do I belong in a maximum security prison for the things i've said here?

this is the thought police. this is 1984.

yikes.

So I am reading this right now, and I am stumped at this part. They've arrested him because the government thinks he's a violent threat, but when he takes a psychological test to prove he's very level-headed, the judge says that his tendancies are irrelevant to the case. That makes perfect sense because he is viewed as a threat, but when it's proven otherwise, it doesn't matter. And you people wonder why I don't like our government?

It's good to know someone can be arrested for being a black anarchist.

the double speak defies the mind, doesn't it?

it's scary, actually.

So for all we know, someone's been monitoring what we've been saying on here, and we could be arrested for saying what we believe. God bless America. Give me censorship or give me a year in jail! Woo!

yeah he got screwed royally by cops, who are selective at best, and a judge who is bias to anything different. no doubt about it. it's not so much a race thing as it is a wealth thing. OJ Simpson got away with murder in many peoples opinions, simply because he's rich. it is a political thing, because of course political motives are different. the judge, cops don't understand the peaceful motives of the anarchist.

like someone said earlier, when you hear the word anarchist, you think guy with a gun shooting people and throwing molotov cocktails. when they hear revolution, they think war, blood, guts, when in fact it's political revolution that is the objective. i'm on RTF right now, reading an article titled "Two Thousand Anarchists go on Rampage in San Francisco" c'mon guys, your not helping your cause.

i think Austin is on to something, he's getting things done, he's rallying people, and they're voiceing concerns. you'll always have oposition that is meaner then you when political revolution is getting kick started, and they'll do whatever to try and smash it. (like start a war in Vietnam) as long as the cause remians defiant, and grows, you'll become a prominent political force.

See, you can't attribute the actions of radicals like them to level-headed anarchists. Unless you were there in the group, you don't really know what went on. Like in the interview, the Associated Press likes to sensationalize stories to make everyone with a differing opinion look like, well, assholes.

How do we know these people were anarchists? Sure, the article might say they were anarchists, but for all we know it could have been a loosely collected group of 50 jackasses breaking windows, we just don't know. And this is also California too, where cops associate all troublemaking blacks and Mexicans with gang activity. You don't have to be in a gang to be a jackass, but nine times out of ten, if you're either black or Mexican in California, you're pigeon-holed into being a gang member, just to make the story seem more sexy. You throw a word like "anarchy" or "gang related" into a story, it's hard to not have the urge to read it. And you damn well know that the AP knows this.

What it all comes down to is, if you have a varying view of the government that is in power at the moment, you'll be screwed into either believing what the government tells you, or you're looking at jail time. This man did nothing wrong except let people use his website, and now he's in jail for a year. He's being punished severely for speaking out against the government, and that's not right. This country was formed for religious and politcal freedom, and yet our freedom isn't granted to us unless we're a democrat or a republican. Beyond that, you have no acceptable view on politics.

And just to let ya know Reno, I don't think anarchists really want to be a politcal group. It's not like in the next presidential election you'll have someone running on the anarchist ticket.

i know that, you know that, but un-educated people who think all anarchist are riot prone types don't. (and in Cali, this includes judges and cops) to top it off it happened during an anarchist march, so because of a few people the whole movement got labeled. it sucks, but that's what the media is going to portray, that's what conclusion the cops are going to come to about a certain group. so the next time you assemble, they expect it, and start swinging batons, start gassing you and start shooting.

Yeah, I've gone to marches and been arrested this summer too, it sucks, but what can you do? The legal system is a joke. I was in and out of jail in three hours. That's still not as fast as prostitutes get out of jail though, which is sad. It's funny, a level-headed protest gets everyone arrested, and a prostitue that does something illegal can get out faster than me. That's America for ya. Do something legal and get arrested.

mosaik wrote:http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles7/Chowkwanyun_Sherman-Austin.htm

To recap, Sherman Austin was the webmaster of raisethefist.com. Over the last two years, his house has been raided by the FBI, he has been arrested and held in federal custody, had his rights routinely violated, his reputation slandered in the press and now he's been sentanced to one year in jail.

No. And that is a stern NO. I have not posted for a while, but I WILL NOT let you spread lies. Sherman is single handedly responsible for spreading one of the worst worms ever. It cracked into webservers, and replaced their sites with links to his raisethefist site. I know because it happend to ME. He also tried to hack his way into government databases. He is a criminal of the worst breed.

Corey, I have no idea what you're talking about, do you wanna go into a deeper explanation about this?

I will provide a story.

Oh, and he also posted directions for building bombs. Sweet kid.

Corey, first of all, there is no mention of this worm virus anywhere in any of the articles i've read about this young man including the one written by the AP. Nothing he was charged with mentions any worm. He has been jailed for distributing information on explosives and that is all. no computer charges were laid.

All they talk about is the so called "Reclaim Guide" or whatever it is, which Austin did not write. He merely provided free hosting to the reclaim guide's website. he is not the author.

What's more, as he rightfully points out, there are several sites providing far more comprehensive information on explosives. Heck, you can get better info at your local library.

Why are they not being prosecuted? he was targeted for being a black anarchist. that's the facts. until i see hard proof showing me otherwise, i'm going to stand by my man here.

Ahhhh, i don't know what to believe.

Well you'd have to believe he'd be arrested for making the worm if he did in fact make it. They did seize his computers, so there would have to be evidence going back to him about it.

i'm sifting through pages of crap on him on google right now and i can't find anything about this virus.

mosaik wrote:Corey, first of all, there is no mention of this worm virus anywhere in any of the articles i've read about this young man including the one written by the AP. Nothing he was charged with mentions any worm. He has been jailed for distributing information on explosives and that is all. no computer charges were laid.

That is because the only articles on the web related to this case are pro-anarchists. So flooded that you can't find anything else about it. So flooded that the story is fabricated to start a movement. I doubt half the stuff mentioned even happened. You will find very little about the case on reputable sources.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/0 ... prison.ap/

that one comes from CNN... can anybody find the word "virus" in there?

he was jailed for the bomb thing.

mosaik wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/08/05/anarchist.prison.ap/

that one comes from CNN... can anybody find the word "virus" in there?

he was jailed for the bomb thing.

this time... the raiding was years ago.

well as Alan pointed out, if he was responsible for the virus, the FBI had his computer. Surely to goodness there'd be evidence of his handiwork on the computers they seized.

he was never charged with any kind of virus-related crime and i have never heard his name associated with any virus. soooo.. i don't know. are you sure it was him?

perhaps it was someone else who developed the virus and used his website for the replacement.

There are, however, sources that show that he was charged for computer fraud and defacing of websites as well as the bomb thing. Defacing of websites sounds a lot like the worm I suggested.