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The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities. -- Ayn Rand

Ok. Let's hear from you AA activists NOW!

no one is discriminating against the individual.

Taxes.

Drug laws.

Sex laws.

Drinking age.

Driving age.

Licesning requirements.

Federal regulations.

he's free to live off on an island somewhere where no one has no juristiction over him. it's his refusal to leave that keeps him here. he's already spoiled to the way of life he's developed for himself.

Reno, dude, the point i'm making is that if they passed a law against black people drinking booze you'd fight it because you believe in the rights of the minority, right?

Or would you say "if you don't like it, move out of our country, darky"?

your right, i'd fight it but the "individual" in question doesn't apply to Affirmative action. "individual" is not a recognised minority. it's something you read from some book by some author that should have been censored like the music industry is.

of course this is comming from a guy that hates books, authors, and the hipocricy of censorship.

There are no laws made against the individual. Not a single one. I defy you to list one.

"If your name is Bob Smith and are 23 years old and live in Miami (that's right Bob, I'm talking about you, not some other Bob Smith, you and you only ) then you may not drink Lemonade."

Laws are made against a collective, not an individual.

Nice try, though.

Not true. The collective is not charged with possesion of narcotics, the individual is. collectives are not charged with evading taxes, individuals are.

but the laws apply to all, not just one individual.

yes, but that does not make them any less a restriction of INDIVIDUAL rights.

racist laws in the 60's applied to ALL black people. only the individual blacks that disobeyed were charged.

You're stretching, Doug.

No, actually he's right on target.
Laws may apply to everyone, but they only affect those people who break them. The individual.
If you want to support a minority, well the smallest minority is of one. I am the only person who is me. If you want to support minorities, and diversity, well support the diversity found between every individual. It's the greatest source of diversity on the planet, since everyone is different.

Laws don't only affect those people who break them, though. They affect everyone who lives under them.

Say I want to become a crackwhore. If I choose to smoke crack and start prostituting, the law affects me by punishing me. But if I don't want to go to jail, and thus decide to become a lawyer instead, the law has still affected me. And even if I don't want to become a crackwhore, the fact that the law keeps crackwhores from working out on my streetcorner <i>also</i> affects my life. Laws affect everyone. Therefore they aren't discriminatory against the individual.

As Corey said, the only law that could be made to discriminate against the individual would be one that said something like "Aerin P. cannot be a crackwhore." That would affect me and only me. That would be discriminatory against the smallest minority. Since there aren't laws like that, though, Doug's argument holds no water.

Come on, Aerin... you know you want to become a crackwhore.

Holy crap Aerin. You've agreed with me in TWO threads now.

Does the word "Individual" Include those without limbs?

No. Sorry, Lando.

Then I'm going to have to agree with Louis on this one.