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Posted: 8/15/2004, 2:01 pm
by Soozy
So ... you know my history don't you? :)

Anyway ... I keep getting random pains in the front/sides of my neck - sometimes right under my jaw bone,sometimes round the sidea bit. From a little bit of internet research the areas kind of tie in with some of the lymph nodes that I have left (as far as I know they didn't take those ones out). Luckily I can't feel any swelling or I'd have been back at the doctor's weeks ago; as it is I'll tell him when I have my next check up. In the mean time, do you have any ideas on what might be causing this?

Posted: 8/15/2004, 2:42 pm
by Henrietta
Now Dr. J, don't you think the doctors would have already prescribed this? No good!

Posted: 8/15/2004, 5:49 pm
by Rusty
Dr. J. How can being hit in the chest with a soccer ball, kill such a young guy. Athletic, always played soccer, good health, how can that kill him?

Posted: 8/15/2004, 8:04 pm
by Johnny
Commotio cordis (cardiac concussion)


Although sudden deaths of athletes are rare, it has lately become apparent that a significant percentage of deaths on the athletic field are due to chest wall impact (commotio cordis). This phenomenon has been reported in over 70 individuals and may be significantly underreported. It is most frequently observed in the young athlete (age 4 to 18), but has also been reported in several individuals over the age of 20 years. The most common projectile is a baseball, but commotio cordis has also been described in hockey, lacrosse, softball, fistfights and with any activity that can have chest impact with a hard object. Victims are most often found in ventricular fibrillation, and resuscitation is more difficult than expected given the young age and excellent health of the victims. Autopsies are notable for the lack of any significant cardiac or thoracic abnormalities.

In an experimental model of commotio cordis developed at the New England Medical Center and Tufts University School of Medicine, ventricular fibrillation could be produced by a 30 mph baseball strike, but only if impact occurred during a 20 msec window on the upslope of the T-wave. In addition to defining the importance of timing in the initiation of sudden death with chest wall impact, this model has been instrumental in the evaluation of other important variables including the energy of impact, the hardness of the impact object, the location of the impact, importance of the autonomic nervous system, and the the K+ATP channel. The need for all of these variables to be exact explains the relative rareness of this event, although we suspect that there are many unreported cases of commotio cordis.

This model has also been helpful in the evaluation of preventive measures for commotio cordis. Using this model, it has been shown that with ball impact at 30 and 40 mph, the softer than standard baseballs (safety balls) reduced the risk of sudden death with baseball impact.

Posted: 8/15/2004, 8:13 pm
by Rusty
So it's a fluke in other words? Just by random chance all the variables were exact. He's dead because of a fluke...

Posted: 8/15/2004, 8:16 pm
by Johnny
yes


Sudden death

Posted: 8/15/2004, 8:17 pm
by half jill
:(

Posted: 8/15/2004, 8:27 pm
by hpdfk
You don't need to help me anymore Johnny! :D

My cousin in my sig fixed me right up!

Posted: 8/15/2004, 8:30 pm
by Henrietta
Hey, I want another alternative to cortisone cream! Doesn't work yo.

Posted: 8/15/2004, 8:35 pm
by Axtech
Damn, Rusty, I have the exact same problem as you, in my right ear. :( It just started this weekend. My ear hurt slightly for a day or two (although it hurt so slightly that I forgot about it all day), and now I can't hear as well out of that ear.

Guess I should go see a doctor. I'll probably just head up to the after hours clinic tomorrow, rather than wait for an appointment with my family doctor.

Posted: 8/15/2004, 8:55 pm
by Rusty
If you have what i had, have a happy time while the clean your ears out, it feels great after their done.

Posted: 8/15/2004, 9:38 pm
by Johnny
Cass wrote:Hey, I want another alternative to cortisone cream! Doesn't work yo.
Well for starters, tell your bro to never scratch himself. And second, did your brother go to a dermatologist?

Posted: 8/15/2004, 9:45 pm
by Henrietta
Yes, many times. And he knows better than to scratch, he's had this problem for most of his life.

Posted: 8/15/2004, 9:49 pm
by Johnny
Try this then. Tell your bro to try petroleum Jelly. :nod:

Posted: 8/15/2004, 10:16 pm
by Henrietta
Where did you find that?

Posted: 8/15/2004, 10:19 pm
by Rusty
Dr.Johny wrote:Try this then. Tell your bro to try petroleum Jelly. :nod:
What does petroleum Jelly do anyway? Like what's it's main useage?

Posted: 8/16/2004, 12:08 am
by Johnny
Rusty wrote:
Dr.Johny wrote:Try this then. Tell your bro to try petroleum Jelly. :nod:
What does petroleum Jelly do anyway? Like what's it's main useage?

Its a sex lubricant....:GASP:
Cass wrote:Where did you find that?
It came from me noggin it did it did!! :nod: :clumsy:


Seriously, tell him to try that or some lotion(with no fragrances and crap like that) he has to keep that area moist.

Posted: 8/16/2004, 8:30 am
by Axtech
Rusty wrote:If you have what i had, have a happy time while the clean your ears out, it feels great after their done.
Clean out with what?

Posted: 8/16/2004, 10:04 am
by Henrietta
Nevermind. Maybe he'll grow out of it ;)

Posted: 8/16/2004, 10:43 am
by Rusty
Axtech wrote:
Rusty wrote:If you have what i had, have a happy time while the clean your ears out, it feels great after their done.
Clean out with what?
With water. You go up to the clinic or doctor or whatever and they fill this huge syringe like thing with water and stick in your ear and force water in at high pressure, and it pushes the wax out of your ear with it. It feels like a lot of pressure when they do it but then when it comes out it feels really good lol.