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Posted: 4/11/2003, 3:33 pm
by Bandalero
if they have no knowlegde that there are other better working conditions then yes he's happy. if people belive they are happy then they'll be happy. look at Iraq, those people were fed that Sadamn is great, that Sadamn cares, but he never did. what was on television? nothing but Pro-sadamn shit...why? because if you leave people stupid and bewildered, they cannot complain.
Posted: 4/11/2003, 10:48 pm
by thirdhour
Okay everybody...let's not tell some kid in some third world country he has rights... and then when he doesn't complain, EVERYBODY's happy!
This is a legitimate question here. At what point did economys in these countrys get horrible? And how was it ever possible that these people managed to survive without the Gap to help them out? And I'm a little confused. How is it that sweat shop labour 'improves the economy' of these nations? How does making barely enough many to survive on while working unhumane hours in horrible conditions while never getting ahead in life while corporations are making money work?
Posted: 4/11/2003, 11:01 pm
by Bandalero
thirdhour wrote:Okay everybody...let's not tell some kid in some third world country he has rights... and then when he doesn't complain, EVERYBODY's happy!
i take it that was aimed at me. my last statement posted on this topic does not justify that in fact i'm strongly oppose to those types of actions. i'm just stating a fact that when a people are held back and oppressed and have only known that their whole lives they assume that their life is great...though their situation and the conditions in whitch they are in are in no way good by anyones standards. it happened during the US times of slavery, and in many forms it happens today. it needs to stop.
Posted: 4/12/2003, 8:10 pm
by thirdhour
thank you
(and sorry, that was aimed at people who think this is right)
Posted: 4/13/2003, 10:15 am
by mosaik
just because better conditions exist don't mean that you are automatically guaranteed them.
i know the conditions in my office could be worlds better. but they're not - am i entitled to sit on a cushy pillow and have my own personal fan running so i don't overheat?
no. if you want a job, you take what's available. working in a shitty factory > not working.
Posted: 4/13/2003, 10:22 am
by starvingeyes
it's really very simple.
i. not working = no money
ii. working for the gap = $16 a day.
x 7 days
i. = $0
ii. = $112
x 4 weeks in a month
i. = $0
ii. = $448
results:
i. starves. dies.
ii. eats. lives. saves some of his money so eventually he can have his own shop.
ii. x 100 000 people over 10 years =
stable economy.
this is the only way strong economic conditions have ever been established in any country, ever.
and do you know what happened in those countries after a certain economic plateu was reached? child labour/sweatshop labour went away.