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Posted: 9/9/2002, 7:36 pm
by Sufjan Stevens
I don't understand why people give other people so much shit. At my high school, there was this openly homosexual kid there, and he didn't care to hide it from people. Well, I went to an all guys school, so damn near everyone there would push him around and harass him for his sex of choice. Well, the school stopped pushing people around for a while when he hung himself and named names in his suicide note. Yeah, I didn't personally know the kid, or make fun of him, because I figured, a homosexual in a school of 800 guys was normal. He shouldn't be dead. He shuold be a senior in college actually.

As much of an ass as I am on the internet, I am truly a nice guy in person. I try to befriend the "losers" of the school, if not just to make them feel better, but to make a friend. There was one kid in my school who had a unibrow, lisp, and acne, and he was treated like shit. My friends and I would go out of our ways to make sure he felt ok, just so we'd know he would be in school the next day. By all means, if that kid didn't have a rock hard soul, he'd have killed himself. His parents ditched him when he was born, and his aunt and uncle adopted him and poured all their money into him, and he got harassed constantly. I hope he's doin OK in college...

Posted: 9/9/2002, 7:42 pm
by nelison
dude you are by no means an ass on here... ok maybe in Lori's appreciation thread you wanted a piece of her ass but thats an another story...
I agree that it just doesnt make sense to rip ppl down when they have something different about them. I've been fortunate to go to a school where there isn't any hate amongst students, but I do hear some of my friends make fun of others in private, I don't know if this makes themselves feel better or what but sometimes I kinda wish they'd get a taste of their own medicine sometimes.

Posted: 9/9/2002, 7:43 pm
by Sufjan Stevens
I bet your friends get shit from other people. But in private, ya know? Not everything has to be public. And not everyone is well liked. So I bet some one in your school hates some of your friends. It's just life.

Posted: 9/9/2002, 7:50 pm
by fluttergirl
kids are cruel. it's a fact of life. I hope that when I have kids they don't get harrassed or turn in to harrassers. the only thing we can do is try to teach kids to be open minded and accepting of others. I actively shun people who are prejudiced, whether it's racial, religious, sexual, or just clique-ish. your race isn't the best. your religion isn't the best. whether you like boys or girls or both doesn't matter. and I don't care if you're goth or prep or loner or psychotic...

ha, ok, if you pull a knife on me I might get a little irate. or I might shoot you with my .45. :mrgreen: anyhoo, can't we all just get along??!?

:freak:

I'm prejudiced against prejudiced people. I don't know what to do with that. :wtf:

Posted: 9/9/2002, 7:53 pm
by nelison
I really don't know... they're well likes in our grade and no one outside my grade knows them...
One of my friends (the one I'm primarily thinking of) is really trying to fit in with the "in" crowd right now... He's gotten all into cars and has put like 2 grand into his since summer started, and now he doesn't ever talk to anyone in our lil group of friends that we've had for years now, it's kinda sad... he just does stuff to fit in, like a bunch of guys shaved their heads (like a brushcut, not bald) so what did he do the next day? take a guess...
ya it just gets annoying, I hate it when ppl try and change themselves to fit in, especially when for the last 5 years I've rejected many possible chances to get into the "in" crowd just because I know I'd be happier with the ppl I'm with now.

Posted: 9/9/2002, 8:00 pm
by Sufjan Stevens
Well Susie, when you have kids, just have them drink martinis with you. They'll become open-minded socialites after a couple drinkie-poos

Posted: 9/9/2002, 8:02 pm
by ArlieKoz13
I hate this town. I hate it with a passion.

Posted: 9/9/2002, 8:09 pm
by nelison
what town is it Arlie?
cause my dad lives in Cheektowaga,..

Posted: 9/9/2002, 8:11 pm
by ArlieKoz13
It's called North Collins. It's in the opposite direction, towards Hamburg/Eden. Thatta way. It really is cursed though. Every single year, on the same stretch of road, something happens.

Posted: 9/9/2002, 8:39 pm
by fluttergirl
OLPFan420 wrote:Well Susie, when you have kids, just have them drink martinis with you. They'll become open-minded socialites after a couple drinkie-poos


Allen, when I decide to have children I won't be drinking anything. btw, what was your mom taking during your conception? :freak:

Posted: 9/9/2002, 8:56 pm
by Sufjan Stevens
She was smoking weed. I am not joking or anything, as soon as she got pregnant with me, she started smoking weed. Yeah, I don't know what happened, but I have this depression and unmotiviation thing going on in my life since I can remember. I was a fucking mistake, and she makes sure I know it every goddamn day of my life....

Posted: 9/9/2002, 8:57 pm
by superboots
To add to all this depressing stuff, I would just like to add that I would like to scream at the top of my lungs (which would draw some unnecessary attention) and find a nice little corner and sob my eyes out right now. I hate my fucking life sometimes.

This is Bethany almost at her worst right now.

well, I have to get back to yet another 5 hrs of homework, and then maybe some sleep, if I'm lucky, and then I have to get up at 7 tomorrow and go to 12 hrs of class.

I hate the way I am sometimes. I hate my perfectionism, my constant need to do my best and be the best I can. I can't settle for anything better than my best, and it's wearing my out. I can't stand it anymore. I hate my high goals, I hate my expectations. I hate having to have to worry about grad school. I'm a fucking sophomore in college, I have years to think about that. I hate having to be the responsible one. I hate being told that I'm so fucking studious. I hate being admired for that. I hate it all. I just one day want to leave it all behind and have fun, because that's what your'e supposed to do in college, right?

I have a lot of hate boiled up inside of me right now.

Sorry for complaining to you guys, but I needed to get that out.

Posted: 9/9/2002, 9:03 pm
by Sufjan Stevens
I don't think Steph and I will last much longer...I don't know how I do it, but I am really good at fucking everything up. I feel miserable right now. I don't know how, but I always manage to fuck my life up as hardcore as I can. I hate myself. I really do. It's a miracle that I'm alive. I am everyone's bitch, I really am. If some one needs to take their frustrations out, just come to me and scream at me, you wouldn't be the first. And I definitely fucked things up with Steph. If you people knew where I was coming from with this, it would be a lot more clear. But I'd much rather prefer to keep this private, before I really fuck things up, if it can get any worse. Bye.

Posted: 9/9/2002, 9:05 pm
by fluttergirl
OLPFan420 wrote:She was smoking weed. I am not joking or anything, as soon as she got pregnant with me, she started smoking weed. Yeah, I don't know what happened, but I have this depression and unmotiviation thing going on in my life since I can remember. I was a fucking mistake, and she makes sure I know it every goddamn day of my life....


bummer, kiddo. at least she wasn't smoking crack. I guess we can all learn from this and know that mothers-to-be should avoid all drugs, be it alcohol, nicotine, marijuana, or others. the surgeon general has spoken. woo.

and Allen, just because I enjoy a cocktail in the evening doesn't discredit what I have to say. when you get a few years on you *maybe* I'll accept your criticism and paranoid theories. :mrgreen:

Posted: 9/9/2002, 9:10 pm
by superrgirll
OLPFan420 wrote:I don't know how I do it, but I am really good at fucking everything up. I feel miserable right now. I don't know how, but I always manage to fuck my life up as hardcore as I can. I hate myself. I really do. It's a miracle that I'm alive. I am everyone's bitch, I really am. If some one needs to take their frustrations out, just come to me and scream at me, you wouldn't be the first.

You just explained my whole life. :(

Posted: 9/9/2002, 9:15 pm
by fluttergirl
holy crap. I just stepped into my teenage years.

I'm really sorry that y'all are feeling down. those goddamn hormones & insecurities can really fuck with you. I hope that, like most people, after you get into your 20's... or mid-20's... or late 20's... you'll realize that all you can do is be yourself. if it isn't enough, there's therapy. that's life.

woo. I'm going to take a bubble bath now. cheers.

Posted: 9/9/2002, 9:23 pm
by Sufjan Stevens
Whoah, I just remembered today is also my ex's birthday. The one who had two other boyfriends besides me. Yeah, out of the three, I was the one to fall hard and I was the one to get crushed and rejected in the end. Alan = oblivious to life

Posted: 9/9/2002, 9:25 pm
by Gimme_Shelter
lots of you are probably going to bitch at me for saying this but me being me, im going to say it anyways

i dont come on here and complain about my life because its not worth it to whine and bitch. you can complain all you want but its not going to do a thing
over and over i hear "my lifes so hard. i hate everyone. i cant stand it anymore"
well then you shut up and do whatever it is you've got to do but you dont go crying to everyone you know of
i mean enough with the crybaby attitude already. hell i've got my life problems as most people do but your never going to see me spreading them out all over some board

Posted: 9/9/2002, 9:27 pm
by Gimme_Shelter
OLPFan420 wrote:Whoah, I just remembered today is also my ex's birthday. The one who had two other boyfriends besides me. Yeah, out of the three, I was the one to fall hard and I was the one to get crushed and rejected in the end. Alan = oblivious to life



i wouldnt even remember her brithday, any way would you care and feel so crushed? if i was you i would think, fuck her
she had 2 other guys and then you and you feel crushed to have lost this woman.... i've got some news for you, these types of women arent hard to find

Posted: 9/9/2002, 9:29 pm
by Sufjan Stevens
I meant at the time I felt crushed. Right now I don't care. I just find it funny how I could go from being in love with her to fogetting about her. I couldn't give a damn less about her life.